Yeah the applications toward policy would be based on what to do with people who already have been exposed to covid but are unvaccinated, definitely not a suggestion that unvaccinated people should get infected instead of vaccinated. That parts a no-brainer. But it does add yet more scientific evidence towards the current policy regime of vaccine mandates being wrong. In the charitable case, we can say the politics haven't caught up to the science. People who are unvaccinated but immune shouldn't be treated as more infectious and a public hazard than people who are vaccinated but not exposed, when the serious strains of covid show natural immunity being more robust. And yet, if you're unvaccinated but immune, you're barred from going out in public in liberal cities right now and Joe Biden tried to get them fired from their jobs

Now here's a hot take:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-60039138



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also, South Africa actually benefiting from the above point about natural immunity;



This post was edited by Goomshill on Jan 20 2022 04:18am

natural immunity is an evil conspiracy theory

this post was sponsored by pfizer

Eh, some caution was probably justified at first. SA has a vastly younger population and most of its immunity came from infection rather than vaccines while it's the other way round in industrialized countries. We couldn't be sure which impact this would have on the virulence of Omicron in our countries.

So I can't blame Western politicians for not scrapping any restrictions or vaccine mandates before, say, the turn of the year when all we had was data from SA. But now that robust data from various old, vaccine-reliant Western countries like Denmark, the UK or even the US is available, there is no more excuse for still holding on to these now obsolete policies.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 20 2022 05:26am

the narrative is collapsing

https://www.who.int/news/item/19-01-2022-statement-on-the-tenth-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-coronavirus-disease-(covid-19)-pandemic

even the WHO is advising against travel restrictions and mandatory vaccines right now

its almost over, the great backpedalling has begun

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fauci-worst-case-scenario-for-2022-is-variant-that-eludes-vaccine-protection-194015191.html

yahoo done screwed up and allowed comments on this article

Most telling thing is that most of the leaders urging people to not get vaccinated are all vaccinated themselves and are using this opportunity to win influence over people without enough sense to see what is happening.

The leaders of the Anti-Vax efforts are Fox News, a place with a private policy of mandatory vaccination to work there. Trump is double vaxed and jabbed. DeSantis isn't stupid, only his supporters are, he is double vaxed and boosted and he dodges questions about it.

It is all pretty standard Republican fare, get voters to vote against their economic interests over social issues, the blacks, abortion, mexicans taking your shitty unskilled jobs. The people who put you to work, get you health care, get your kids educated and keep them healthy are people you all vehemently hate.

People in many towns blame people who have never been there and who don't even know they exist for their rotten cultures and problems. Totally external locus of control. They are as bad as people who are follow celebrities.




Yes, this is because of Capitalism falling apart, not because they were wrong about the disease. If you want to visit a loved one in the hospital you have to wait 20 days from when they were diagnosed, because they are contagious with a deadly disease, and we get sued if a patient or visitor dies. If you have Covid-19 and you work somewhere you have to now come back whenever you feel like you can regardless of symptoms. This isn't because they are wrong about the 20 days, it is because we are actually disposable as workers under the capitalist paradigm. We as humans are just another factor of production to be considered such as rent, interest, entrepreneurship, investment, etc. If I die they will get another one.

It isn't backpedaling, it is capitalism reasserting itself as the prime ethic and the acknowledgement that individual lives are meaningless in the face of the economic engine of America.

You can have the clueless self-confirming take though, foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

All the backing off of the covid mandates only says that a 9 day general strike in America would be able to get labor whatever they want.



You're explaining meiosis to goat herders in israel before the common era, better use metaphors, I recommend something about a dude and a rib.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jan 20 2022 07:22am

The WHO is coming from a very different place when it makes these advices.

They recommend against vaccine mandates because they want more doses going to third world countries with low vax rates before the residents of rich countries get their third/fourth/fifth shot.
And they recommend against travel restrictions because they are a globalist institution that is ideologically opposed to any kinds of border controls, and also because their boards and panels, like those of most UN institutions, are numerically dominated by poor third world countries.

yes, but they still have an interest to save face though as the tide is clearly turning

i mean the poor countries you talk are basically done with the pandemic and continuing the bullshit and its economical damages is hurting them a lot



cute little rant, but you do realise thats its you and lefty friends pushing the hardest when it comes to stupid mandates?

YOU have caused the mess you blame capitalism for

meanwhile in reality there is no system where people are as disposable as socialism

A ) Emergency (mRna) vaccines and restriction prevented a massacre.
B ) Legislations on mandate vaccine are coming late but it's great to have them ready the day another pandemic hits.

People who can't or refuse to understand that are stupid morons.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jan 20 2022 07:59am