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Jul 28 2021 02:30pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 28 2021 04:18pm)
Slow down, given the terrible response from the capital police and the awful reaction of the feds im not at ALL discounting that police presence was dialed down to allow that mob to take the capital.

my issue is with the posters who downplay the violence of that day, basically cowards like ofthevoid who wont even watch that video, because he's a coward. not smart, a coward, and getting dumber and more cowardly every year.



the night of the MN St Paul riots i couldnt sleep and watched it for 10 hours then called in the next day. stomach in knots the whole time.


Lol.

You're regurgitating publicly echoed buzzwords from media and partisan politicians to make something more than it is. There was violence but what we saw was no where near accepted realities of what the word insurrection means and the historical weight it carries.

Some of us can look at a situation look at the competing political forces and come to a sober minded take for what took place. There was violence, some people should be arrested but holy fuck you're dumb if you think some weekend warriors really had some plan to overturn the election by going into the chamber, and posting there for a few pics before dispersing as some serious historic event in our history.

As usual the pard maverick that has a conforming take of what's in and popular calls others cowards. :rofl:

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jul 28 2021 02:32pm
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Jul 28 2021 02:38pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 28 2021 01:29pm)
i dont live in st paul, i dont even live in minnesota. and ive never supported BLM's property damage on riots.

in fact ive been stressing the MLK style protests being better since Michael Brown was shot here in PARD and have been at odds with lefties in pard for that stance.

tl;dr you missed by a fucking mile.


i was asking a open question you answered it in part ty

it was three short lines of text this made zero sense. "tl;dr you missed by a fucking mile.".......................
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Jul 28 2021 02:42pm
Watching a traitor flail around and gargle to death in her own blood while draped in a trump flag was peak MAGA.
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 28 2021 10:55am)
So what should happen to the people who broke down doors?
Or the ones who assault police officers?
Or the ones who accessed the offices of senators and other congressional staffers?

IMO the punishments need to range from zero, for the people who never even went onto capital grounds, to a few months for the people who trespassed, to 10+ years for the people who illegally accessed office space and other areas containing sensitive materials, to straight up treason for the people who actively broke down doors and assaulted officers.


Why is it treason to attack one centralized bureaucratic rat nest that wouldn't have even resulted in the fall of the country, but it isn't treason and is completely understandably justified anger to systematically take down the civil integrity of literally every city in the USA?


I think we need to seriously put this into perspective here.

A bunch of Maga tards (mostly unarmed larpers who literally wore cosplay from 'the puisher' - just lmfao) walked into an empty capitol building - thanks to democrat run institutions letting them do it, btw. And were promptly removed - business resumed in 3 hours. This riot happened once and once only and accomplished literally nothing except enabling the left to smear them as terrorists.

Now:
Lets contrast that against what the left has done for the last 2 years in L.A, New York, Chicago, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Minneapolis, Kenosha, and now even D.C - just to name a few. They have literally turned these cities into unlivable crime havens where gangbangers control the streets and are not prosecuted, even in spite of the endless video proof we have of them LITERALLY trying to burn police alive in their precincts, causing Billions of dollars in damage and implied economic losses as businesses flee these cities in droves. And it doesn't even need to be mentioned that the general sense of unwellness and fear these people produce in the average citizen (who has no choice but to live there) just by their every existence - is reason enough to get rid of them.


How is the second mode of behavior not infinitely worse to you? I will never wrap my head around this, but you'd better get real about it fast - because the USA is on track to be a 3rd world country.

This post was edited by LoverManGenius on Jul 28 2021 03:05pm
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Quote (Morphmcmanerson @ Jul 28 2021 02:42pm)
Watching a traitor flail around and gargle to death in her own blood while draped in a trump flag was peak MAGA.


You're just an incel who hates women obvs. Not even hiding it at this point

Even the way you talk makes you sound like you unironically jam out to crawling in my skin while cutting yourself.

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Jul 28 2021 02:59pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 28 2021 02:58am)
This partisan circus is a total waste of time. No new info or insights will come from this, just Pelosi's preferred spin on Jan 6.
Investigating the events of that day and prosecuting the perpetrators is a job for the FBI and the DOJ, not Congress.

A sincere bipartisan effort by Congress could have been helpful, but that ship sailed when Pelosi specifically selected the two most staunchly anti-Trump Republicans for the committee while blocking the pro-Trump people.
She made it abundantly clear that she only seeks the veneer of bipartisanship, but isn't actually interested in giving the other side's perspective any room.


It won't be a waste of time if certain individuals are subpoenaed. I agree that yesterday was pointless and the primary purpose was to make the GOP look bad. Also, it's incredibly idiotic to blame Pelosi for it being partisan....you must not be familiar with the timeline at all. Please reread the OP because I gave an unbiased summary.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 28 2021 09:42am)
I mean a few people should get arrested for trespassing and other applicable crimes but I laugh at the partisan pearl clutching. Hyperbole has become the norm the last few years though. A few dumb fucks breached the federal building for a few hours like lol man.

>Literally hitler
>Russian spy
>Hunting down our kids in the streets
>Starting WW3
>Insurrection



While there is certainly hyperbole, you tend to believe in it if it supports your POV and you downplay it if it makes your side look bad. There's no doubt that some (on the order of dozens out of the several thousand) of those people legitimately did try to overthrow the government. That's a textbook strategy for starting a revolution (small number hide within a crowd, they light the fuse, and they let the crowd do the rest). They just happened to be outrageously incompetent but that's to be expected from the modern right. This is what happens when your side triples down on stupid for decades.
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Jul 28 2021 03:06pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 28 2021 03:30pm)
Lol.

You're regurgitating publicly echoed buzzwords from media and partisan politicians to make something more than it is. There was violence but what we saw was no where near accepted realities of what the word insurrection means and the historical weight it carries.

Some of us can look at a situation look at the competing political forces and come to a sober minded take for what took place. There was violence, some people should be arrested but holy fuck you're dumb if you think some weekend warriors really had some plan to overturn the election by going into the chamber, and posting there for a few pics before dispersing as some serious historic event in our history.

As usual the pard maverick that has a conforming take of what's in and popular calls others cowards. :rofl:


U didn't watch the video. Coward. Scared of a YouTube video.

Worse you're strawmanning as if I'm claiming the weekend warriors were the nefarious ones. Even though I've said other wise today. In this thread.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jul 28 2021 03:09pm
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Quote (thundercock @ Jul 28 2021 01:59pm)
It won't be a waste of time if certain individuals are subpoenaed. I agree that yesterday was pointless and the primary purpose was to make the GOP look bad. Also, it's incredibly idiotic to blame Pelosi for it being partisan....you must not be familiar with the timeline at all. Please reread the OP because I gave an unbiased summary.



While there is certainly hyperbole, you tend to believe in it if it supports your POV and you downplay it if it makes your side look bad. There's no doubt that some (on the order of dozens out of the several thousand) of those people legitimately did try to overthrow the government. That's a textbook strategy for starting a revolution (small number hide within a crowd, they light the fuse, and they let the crowd do the rest). They just happened to be outrageously incompetent but that's to be expected from the modern right. This is what happens when your side triples down on stupid for decades.


so its not bullchit rhetoric from the left it was just a incompetent revolution.......lol
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Quote (thundercock @ 28 Jul 2021 22:59)
It won't be a waste of time if certain individuals are subpoenaed. I agree that yesterday was pointless and the primary purpose was to make the GOP look bad. Also, it's incredibly idiotic to blame Pelosi for it being partisan....you must not be familiar with the timeline at all. Please reread the OP because I gave an unbiased summary.

I did read it, and the timeline fits with what I said.

Quote (thundercock @ 27 Jul 2021 22:05)
1. Democrats and a small amount of Republicans wanted to create an unbiased 9/11 commission style committee
2. The majority of Republicans wanted BLM/Antifa riots to be within the scope of the committee
3. Pelosi strikes a deal with Rep Katko (R) to create an independent commission. This passes the House 252-175 with 35 Republicans joining the Democrats
4. The Senate fillibusters the legislation with only 6 Republicans joining the Democrats. The rationale is that the committee would be redundant since there are other committees and the DOJ investigating
5. Pelosi creates a Select Committee with subpoena power. She has the authority to veto picks. One of her choices is Liz Cheney (R).
6. McCarthy makes his picks and includes firebrands such as Jim Jordan (R)
7. Pelosi rejects the two most controversial picks (Banks and Jordan) so McCarthy withdraws all of his picks. Both of the moves are unprecedented.
8. Pelosi appoints Republican Adam Kinzinger. Both Kinzinger and Cheney are persona non grata within the Republican party.


Everything went as expected until step 7. If Pelosi has the right to appoint Cheney, the most anti-Trump Republican in Congress who represents an extreme minority position within her own party, to one of the GOP-reserved seats on the committee, then it's only fair when McCarthy appoints staunch pro-Trump people to obtain more balance and a fairer representation of the GOP perspective on Jan 6.




The subpoena thing would be good if both parties could use it. But I highly doubt that Pelosi will allow Republicans to subpoena effective witnesses for the defense; she will only pick carefully selected people who she knows will advance the viewpoint she wants to come out of this.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 28 2021 03:10pm)
I did read it, and the timeline fits with what I said.



Everything went as expected until step 7. If Pelosi has the right to appoint Cheney, the most anti-Trump Republican in Congress who represents an extreme minority position within her own party, to one of the GOP-reserved seats on the committee, then it's only fair when McCarthy appoints staunch pro-Trump people to obtain more balance and a fairer representation of the GOP perspective on Jan 6.




The subpoena thing would be good if both parties could use it. But I highly doubt that Pelosi will allow Republicans to subpoena effective witnesses for the defense; she will only pick carefully selected people who she knows will advance the viewpoint she wants to come out of this.



Pelosi will not allow anybody who will even ask the question of how the: FBI, NSA, Military, Democrat Mayor of D.C, Entire Democrat establishment willfully ignored what we all knew would be happening on the 6th.

That question is absolutely not allowed and that's your proof that this entire 'investigation' is just another shit show by the left - desperate to dredge up Trump one last time.
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