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Nov 13 2019 01:34pm


The only boring part of this is when Republicans ask questions. Its like cringey to see them try to hard over bullshit.
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Nov 13 2019 01:35pm
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It's not just Giuliani as a person though. It's a private, hyper-partisan person engaging in this sort of behavior on order of the President.

In the general sense, a lot of people, including myself, would agree with the bold. The issue is if there is something unethical going on and it appears that this administration is more prone to that than others.


I find it embarrassing that Trump can't conduct his administration with any semblance of professionalism. Giuliani sneaking around conducting the President's dirty work is emblematic of that.

More than anything, though, it's essential that we defend the authority of the president over his bureaucracy. Unelected state officers can't throw a tantrum every time someone they dislike gets into office, even if they believe and he in actuality is completely unqualified.
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Nov 13 2019 01:37pm
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I find it embarrassing that Trump can't conduct his administration with any semblance of professionalism. Giuliani sneaking around conducting the President's dirty work is emblematic of that.

More than anything, though, it's essential that we defend the authority of the president over his bureaucracy. Unelected state officers can't throw a tantrum every time someone they dislike gets into office, even if they believe and he in actuality is completely unqualified.




Republicans ladies and gentlemen.
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Nov 13 2019 01:39pm
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There's also the administration released the aid AFTER the whistle blower filed his complaint...that's an important aspect to this.


I agree. They released the aid when they realized their bs would backfire.
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Nov 13 2019 01:40pm
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Republicans ladies and gentlemen.


Schiff is a notorious leaker who has repeatedly lied to the American people about matters of extreme national importance. He currently enjoys the full and complete faith of the Democratic Party to lead an impeachment inquiry into a sitting president.

Suffice to say that the Democratic Party is also a historic embarrassment.
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Nov 13 2019 01:40pm
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But it's incredible to me that the President can't speak to a foreign leader without some bureaucratic rat scurrying off to conspire with the President's political opponents.


These officials will be praised in the history books for sounding the alarm on Trump's obviously corrupt behavior. Maybe you should reflect on why several officials who have severed honorably for decades all thought this effort to pressure Ukraine was wrong. Even John Bolton knew this was shady enough that he instructed Fiona Hill to tell the NSC lawyer about it.
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Nov 13 2019 01:44pm
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These officials will be praised in the history books for sounding the alarm on Trump's obviously corrupt behavior. Maybe you should reflect on why several officials who have severed honorably for decades all thought this effort to pressure Ukraine was wrong. Even John Bolton knew this was shady enough that he instructed Fiona Hill to tell the NSC lawyer about it.


Absolutely no one will remember who these guys are in twenty years.
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Nov 13 2019 01:46pm
Did Elise Stefanik just re-ask the same questions that have been already been asked?

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Nov 13 2019 01:49pm
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Did Elise Stefanik just re-ask the same questions that have been already been asked?

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I think a lot of it is getting sound bites for your constituents.
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Nov 13 2019 01:51pm
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I think a lot of it is getting sound bites for your constituents.


I keep hearing representatives talk about legal terms. There's one that applies here: "Asked and Answered".
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