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Quote (thundercock @ Nov 13 2019 07:21am)
Schiff actually did a good job with his opening statement. Calm and measured.


Was he able to read from a document this time without making a bunch of shit up?
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https://news.yahoo.com/connolly-says-democrats-already-have-smoking-gun-to-impeach-trump-031258672.html

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A Democrat who attended most of the closed-door depositions over the past month said that while the beginning of public hearings will be instructive for Americans, President Trump has already given Congress all the evidence it needs to impeach him.


so why these hearings? Democrats can vote to impeach now based on this evidence
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https://news.yahoo.com/connolly-says-democrats-already-have-smoking-gun-to-impeach-trump-031258672.html



so why these hearings? Democrats can vote to impeach now based on this evidence


Because Republicans wanted them!
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https://news.yahoo.com/connolly-says-democrats-already-have-smoking-gun-to-impeach-trump-031258672.html



so why these hearings? Democrats can vote to impeach now based on this evidence


in fairness the hearing is to present evidence both to the legislature at large and the american people.

in even more fairness we can not expect this to be a brief overview of the investigation thusfar and then move right on to a vote.

evidence to impeach =/= evidence to remove. evidence to remove is dependent on the impeachment, which basically equals the hearings themselves. they're sadly a necessary process, which will give the excuse to drag it out.

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Because there's no evidence lmfao


evidence and proof aren't the same thing, there's lots of evidence.

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Quote (thundercock @ Nov 13 2019 08:45am)
Because Republicans wanted them!


Because there's no evidence lmfao
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Nov 13 2019 09:50am
Quote (thundercock @ 13 Nov 2019 10:45)
Because Republicans wanted them!

'because political party a wants something' isn't cause for foregoing an impeachment vote when, per political party b, they already have the means to vote to impeach the President this minute.

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in fairness the hearing is to present evidence both to the legislature at large and the american people.

in even more fairness we can not expect this to be a brief overview of the investigation thusfar and then move right on to a vote.

evidence to impeach =/= evidence to remove. evidence to remove is dependent on the impeachment, which basically equals the hearings themselves. they're sadly a necessary process, which will give the excuse to drag it out.



evidence and proof aren't the same thing, there's lots of evidence.

the guy said there is sufficient evidence to impeach today
they can have the trial for removal in the senate. plenty of time to present the evidence for removal there before uhh, what's the next important political event again?

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Nov 13 2019 09:52am
Wow, Kent took a MASSIVE shit on the Burisma investigation nonsense.
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Quote (IceMage @ Nov 13 2019 09:01am)
Stream:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpNl3b1SYtc

Background:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/09/24/full-trump-ukraine-timeline-now/

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Only two presidents have been impeached before. Trump managed to avoid it for a while, even though he tried to obstruct justice and lied under oath to Mueller, but his corrupt character got him in trouble again. Based on the facts, if this were a Democratic president, I think every Republican in Congress would impeach and remove.

Bill Taylor and George Kent are testifying today. Will be interesting to see if these hearings shift public opinion at all.







Schiff is happy you made a new RED BOLD topic for this. He was worried that having the hearings on international TV might not be enough. :D
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Nov 13 2019 09:58am
Is it just me, or does Bill Taylor seem better for television? I could see the neanderthals calling Kent too academic, deep state, etc.
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Schiff is happy you made a new RED BOLD topic for this. He was worried that having the hearings on international TV might not be enough. :D


Now you are complaining about politics being posted in pard?
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