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the idea that the govt should uphold a religious value is morally repugnant. i am religious, but my stance as a libertarian will always override that in matters of governance. if people want to sin their way to hell, legally, they should be allowed to do so.

as is im not sold on the idea that homosexuality is a sin, let alone a mortal sin worthy of damnation.
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Apr 24 2024 12:43pm)
I also find the institution quite silly.



The importance on 'reproduction' is quite interesting to me from a philosophical perspective. Why is it important that we continue as a species? What is it that we are hoping to achieve? Or, is it simply a giant sunk-cost fallacy and we're trying to prevent collapse of the level or kind of society we have achieved thus far?



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the idea that the govt should uphold a religious value is morally repugnant. i am religious, but my stance as a libertarian will always override that in matters of governance. if people want to sin their way to hell, legally, they should be allowed to do so.

as is im not sold on the idea that homosexuality is a sin, let alone a mortal sin worthy of damnation.


Sola scriptura

It's a sin, always has been a sin. All sins are mortal without repentance.
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Apr 24 2024 09:42pm
Honestly I lose sleep at night knowing that gay people are permitted to enjoy their lives.

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No one really cares about any of that, they want it banned because they find it icky, end of story.


To be fair it is icky
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Lemme guess... "hypothetical" was the word of the day on your word of the day toilet paper? :)
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Apr 24 2024 10:50pm
I remember years and years ago i was opposed to these marriages and ofc adopting/having children.
The reason was my lack of experience in life... As simple as that.
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Eh, being gay is a sin in the bible and so is lying. Per that perspective, being gay and sinning isn't okay, but if it is who you are, i don't think it'd technically keep you from heaven if you were religious and had those beliefs.

Any1 else thinking otherwise is sorta silly. 10 commandments is really the only thing that translates somewhat well in the bible old testament to new testament, and new testament books aren't really that good either later on, as they are mostly specific scenarios and imo not even always comparable to what could be considered word of god, but rather random other stuff.

my real opinion is that if you are a christian, the main stay point is 10 commandments, following Jesus in loving others and yourself, and doing your best to be better every day, regardless of your sinning nature.


that said, being gay would fall under that too, but it would negate what i said first.


Just don't groom your children like a lot of weird mentally ill people do. being gay doesn't mean you are mentally ill, but theres mentally ill people whoare straight and gay

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Sola scriptura

It's a sin, always has been a sin. All sins are mortal without repentance.


the absolute interpretation of this means we're all doomed. no one can even be cognizant of 100% of their sin, let alone repent all of it. that's why catholics added the communion loophole to wash away sin weekly in an attempt to escape this silly interpretation.

any god would of course weigh sin. elsewise a repentant child rapist goes to heaven and someone who looked at their neighbors wife a bit too long goes straight to hell.
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the absolute interpretation of this means we're all doomed. no one can even be cognizant of 100% of their sin, let alone repent all of it. that's why catholics added the communion loophole to wash away sin weekly in an attempt to escape this silly interpretation.

any god would of course weigh sin. elsewise a repentant child rapist goes to heaven and someone who looked at their neighbors wife a bit too long goes straight to hell.


You say you are a Christian but I don't even think you understand the basic premise of Christianity. The whole point of Jesus (which the whole faith revolves around) coming was because we were all doomed because we are all sinners. He came to be the sacrifice to atone for all sins. Because He was sinless, He was accepted by God as the only acceptable sacrifice for the worlds sins. Atonement for sins doesn't mean some weekly or monthly communion or any other single ritualistic act, at it's heart it means believing & accepting what Jesus did and following Him, which means repenting of your sins. Repentance doesn't mean we won't sin again, in fact most of us will continue to commit sins throughout our life, but we trust Jesus to cover those sins. Being a Christian is a journey to become more like Jesus, and as you do so, you start to shun sin more and more.

The bolded is actually is accurate. Someone that is truly repentant, even a child rapist would go to heaven while someone that lives a morally neutral life but doesn't accept Jesus wouldn't.

Homosexuality is a sin always has been and always will be. Just like lying, stealing, coveting, whatever else. What you're doing is actually counter-biblical, because you think you can somehow be the arbiter of what sins are big and which are small, therefore if some sins are small, you do not Jesus to atone for those sins. It completely misses the point of the faith.
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