it's environmental, genetical, and social... Things are never totally white or black



This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Sep 20 2017 01:39pm

That's so not fair. Trump is wearing depends. Of course he's got junk in the trunk.

Here's a peer reviewed paper in a high impact journal:

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~choucc/environmental_impact_of_various_dietary_patterns.pdf

>crossfit

It's scientifically well established that obesity has an extremely significant genetic component. It's obvious your delusional hatred for fat people clouds your reasoning.



Wrong.

I love how widespread this pseudoscientific nonsense has become.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Sep 20 2017 02:21pm

Obesity isn't genetic... lmao
If you take exercise out of the equation, your tdee (total daily energy expenditure) is as a matter of fact genetic.
But that doesn't make cal in vs cal out untrue.

I read the .pdf. While I agree that meat production HAS an environmental impact, I don't necessarily agree that it's bad.
I think we would need a paper produced in the USA by a university that is peer reviewed, and compares the impact from meat production to that of say...transportation. So we have something to compare to besides...rabbit food.

See, we don't really need cars like we do...meat.

Personally, I have a very fast metabolism. If I was to go vegan, I would have to eat ungodly amounts of food to even stay awake.

This post was edited by Ghot on Sep 20 2017 03:02pm

Calories in vs calories out is too simplistic to be touted as an absolute statement but to a general degree how much energy you expend vs how much you take in is for the most part how your body operates. It's just your body will break down carbs vs fat at varying levels meaning a calorie is not a calorie but energy in vs energy out is somewhat true , it will just be to a varying degree of what that requires on an individual basis.

But morbid obesity is not some ill fate determined entirely by genes. Maybe you could make an argument that self control and environment maybe makes someone almost hopeless in some cases to take the appropriate steps to lose weight but you're not going to find much scientific evidence that could say with any certainties that someone will be morbidly obese regardless of their diet/activity.

This post was edited by sir_lance_bb on Sep 20 2017 02:50pm

True, yet diabetes is specific in the case that studies have shown a heritable link for the chance of getting diabetes in life, yet not getting it from birth. The environment we create effects the chance of ppl getting it.

I'm obviously not saying shaming is the way here alienating ppl tends to not inspire them. Exectly because the a part of the cause of getting it, is inherited.

This post was edited by Knaapie on Sep 20 2017 02:56pm

If you take certain medications like antipsychotic medications you will gain weight no matter how much you diet no matter how much you exercise.

I'm sure other medications have this effect too I just work with antipsychotics.

This post was edited by Skinned on Sep 20 2017 02:53pm

Gaining weight vs morbid obesity are 2 entirely different things.

It should be pretty clear that the environment of what and how much people are eating is what has caused the increased rate of obesity. Obesity rates increase as sugar/refined carbohydrates production and intake increases and the sheer volume of food being eaten has increased.



This post was edited by sir_lance_bb on Sep 20 2017 02:58pm