Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 20 2017 06:47pm)
I showed it's a terrible argument form.
Try pulling your head out of your rectum for a few minutes and examine your own arguments before making them. It will lead to you making less dumb arguments like what you just posted.
You made a loosely similar connection and pretended it refuted the argument (SPOILER: it didnt) and followed it up with a childish insult.
You thinking its 'terrible' and it triggering you are not refutations either.
There is nothing inherently wrong with logically determining there are no good cops because they enforce unjust/cruel/wicked laws as he laid out.
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The system will never be as perfect as you are requiring. Surely you've heard of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle?
I am not requiring a perfect system. I am recognizing that the system is "manifestly unjust" and that the people directly violently enacting these unjust policies are not "good".
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The goal is a system that is as good as is possible within this three dimensional reality. Many towns make it work with a privatized police, but those aren't perfect either.
The system never being perfect, and what you determine the goal of the system to be do not absolve people of terrible actions and make them good.
Just doing their job is not an excuse.
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A less general refutation
All cops take the pledge.
Not all cops take the pledge intending to uphold laws that are viewed as unjust.
Most of the laws they enforce on a day to day basis are just.
Therefore, not all cops are bad by virtue of taking the pledge to uphold all laws.
A 'majority' of actions is not everyone's standard for good. Its a rather shitty one. Literal murderers would pass that 'test'