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Sep 2 2017 02:14am
Quote (Secksii @ Sep 2 2017 12:15am)
some of the back is covered, so there's a way for air to exhaust, but is ur desk against a wall? like would the warm exhausted air just hit a wall? or is ur desk in middle of the room, so there's a way for the warm air to ventilate?
If it's against a wall, it wouldnt matter if it was placed in there, or beside ur desk/outside ur desk. Since both positions would still hit the wall... having both sides covered isn't bad. It's more about the front and back.

only way to tell if the cases have psu cover is actually seeing the case through pics or in person, but the common quality cases that have those psu shells are p400 and s340's.

For the gpu, you pretty much get the cheapest and highest model you can w/o paying over too much. Kinda hard to explain this, but each company has higher models like for Asus = Strix -> Dual -> Turbo.
As long as you avoid FE versions, you should be fine. They look like this: http://media.bestofmicro.com/J/U/594282/gallery/10-GTX-1060-FE-ISO_w_600.jpg
So using the example above, i'd avoid Asus Turbo models, since they're FE design and only look at Strix/Dual but you also compare it with EVGA's/MSIs models etc. and pick the best price per model imo.


Well the front is open towards me, of course. The back is slightly covered but I can take off the back cover and have it open and clear, but the tower would still only be about a foot away from the wall behind it. Is that enough space? I could always move the desk a bit more forward, i guess.

Also, how many fans in the case? If I go with a cheaper case it'll likely come with 2 stock (one front one back), I'm assuming that's enough

As for the GPU, I guess I'll ask before I buy.
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Quote (Secksii @ Sep 1 2017 07:21pm)
Marginally sometimes, I say it depends more on the location, but does that mean it's a good reason to just have a bunch of airflow obstruction within the case? Try it Urself and test it. Why rely on being shown.

Its nice to have cool airflow from the front go right through the back and top of ur case w/ minimal shit in the way. Nn optical drive, hdd bays, wires, obstructing the airflow and why cases these days are designed a way that's not in the airflow way. But that's just me I guess

If I was any less lazy I probably would take a short video of me showing stuff into my case and checking the temps.

Alas, LTT's clip is way more than enough to make me believe the difference in temps in a mid-tower will be a few degrees at most. Granted, that's a blower-style GPU cooler but it takes hilariously much obstruction before the Hyper 212 cooled CPU heats up.

Personally, I do like neat, sexy computers :blush:
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If I was any less lazy I probably would take a short video of me showing stuff into my case and checking the temps.

Alas, LTT's clip is way more than enough to make me believe the difference in temps in a mid-tower will be a few degrees at most. Granted, that's a blower-style GPU cooler but it takes hilariously much obstruction before the Hyper 212 cooled CPU heats up.

Personally, I do like neat, sexy computers :blush:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDCMMf-_ASE


that video is pretty funny lol
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Difference between 1x16 vs 2x8 vs 4x4 RAM?
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Get 2x8 for best perf

1x16 if you plan on getting another 16gb later on for 32gb which is pointless
4x4 if you care about filling up all the slots on 4slotted mobos
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Difference between 1x16 vs 2x8 vs 4x4 RAM?


4x in a Dual channel mobo has no added benefit, Other than more gb's.

It can however affect your Overclock, By putting extra stress on the Memory controller (Or so i've been told)

Dual channel 2x sticks is better
Quad 4x is better obv


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Sep 13 2017 05:03am
Quote (Secksii @ Sep 12 2017 05:24pm)
Get 2x8 for best perf

1x16 if you plan on getting another 16gb later on for 32gb which is pointless
4x4 if you care about filling up all the slots on 4slotted mobos


Quote (Rikuo @ Sep 12 2017 05:47pm)
4x in a Dual channel mobo has no added benefit, Other than more gb's.

It can however affect your Overclock, By putting extra stress on the Memory controller (Or so i've been told)

Dual channel 2x sticks is better
Quad 4x is better obv


Thanks. Related question:

Why are there so many different types of 2x8 = 16gb Trident Zs? And which ones exactly should I be looking at?

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#R=5,4&s=403200&Z=16384002&L=150,190

(filters: 3200mhz, 2x8, 15 cas minimum)

This post was edited by LuLer on Sep 13 2017 05:14am
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Sep 13 2017 05:25am
Quote (Rikuo @ Sep 12 2017 07:47pm)
4x in a Dual channel mobo has no added benefit, Other than more gb's.

It can however affect your Overclock, By putting extra stress on the Memory controller (Or so i've been told)

Dual channel 2x sticks is better
Quad 4x is better obv


Can confirm this as I've dealt with it a few times now.

Quote (LuLer @ Sep 13 2017 06:03am)
Thanks. Related question:

Why are there so many different types of 2x8 = 16gb Trident Zs? And which ones exactly should I be looking at?

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#R=5,4&s=403200&Z=16384002&L=150,190

(filters: 3200mhz, 2x8, 15 cas minimum)


colour of ram or rgb.

As for F4-3200C16D-16GTZB and F4-3200C16D-16GTZ
while both are rate dthe same CAS timing there is actually a difference.
The second one being slightly better at 15/15/15/35 and first ones 15/16/16/35
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Sep 13 2017 06:18am
Quote (King Atrhur @ Sep 13 2017 04:25am)
Can confirm this as I've dealt with it a few times now.



colour of ram or rgb.

As for F4-3200C16D-16GTZB and F4-3200C16D-16GTZ
while both are rate dthe same CAS timing there is actually a difference.
The second one being slightly better at 15/15/15/35 and first ones 15/16/16/35


Okay thanks. I don't really care about style, especially with a window-less case, so I'll go with whatever drops in price.

But another related question: is there chart accurate?



Like, 3200 14 cas ram is about the same as 3000 13 cas ram is about the same as 2800 12 cas ram? Particularly when it comes to overclocking using the Ryzen CPU and Gigabyte AB350 mobo.

This post was edited by LuLer on Sep 13 2017 06:19am
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You won't notice any difference in 12 or 17 CAS timing, just buy w/e you can afford with the lowest CAS.
Theres at most 3% difference from the slowest to fastest ram reguardless of what the numbers indicate.
think ryzens sweet spot is 3000 or 32000 mhz
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