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You make some very bold claims while talking out of your ass. I doubt you've ever been outside North America let alone ever reach the shores of Russia.

I support a stronger relationship with Russia. The way to influence a country is by breaking bread with them and having economic/social/political ties with them not to shun them.


So I have to have visited Russia to be informed about their history?
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So I have to have visited Russia to be informed about their history?


So are you claiming to be knowledgeable enough about their history to say dumb shit?
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Quote (ofthevoid @ 16 Mar 2017 03:46)
So are you claiming to be knowledgeable enough about their history to say dumb shit?


does that validate your lack of giving knowledge in your post?
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So are you claiming to be knowledgeable enough about their history to say dumb shit?


If you want to have a mature discussion let me know.
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The Russian government is extremely evil, and Putin is the most dangerous man on the planet, exceeding even Erdoğan, Jong-un, and Assad. Russia is by extension the most dangerous country in the world (filled with millions of human rights violations and its government guilty of committing mass terror attacks on its own people in order to manipulate the public into supporting the massacre of civilians in Chechnya).

If reality was a movie, the Russian government would be the bad guys and Putin would be the supervillain. Anyone who supports Russia or suggests a diplomatic relationship with them is either ignorant or evil and anti-American (such as Trump, who happens to be all of the above).


Ok John McCain

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Mar 15 2017 09:13pm
Russia is shitty as fuck.
Israel is evil.
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If you want to have a mature discussion let me know.


Mature discussion lol. You regurgitate CNN talking points. Although my ancestors personally suffered at the hands of Russians after WW2 when my grandmother got shipped off to Siberia for being a christian i understand their geopolitical moves. It has nothing to do with being "evil", there are no good guys here, only a fool would think that a country acting in it's self interests is evil. We have done just as much, if not more damage in the world, at least take your homer glasses off friend.

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Ok John McCain


'So I repeat again, the senator from Kentucky is now working for Vladimir Putin'
-John McCain
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Mature discussion lol. You regurgitate CNN talking points. Although my ancestors personally suffered at the hands of Russians after WW2 when my grandmother got shipped off to Siberia for being a christian i understand their geopolitical moves. It has nothing to do with being "evil", there are no good guys here, only a fool would think that a country acting in it's self interests is evil. We have done just as much, if not more damage in the world, at least take your homer glasses off friend.


I have not attacked you and I think you are a good poster, I'd appreciate the same respect from you towards me. We disagree but that's no reason for insults. Saying I regurgitate CNN talking points is just a convenient way to avoid having to respond seriously to my statements, especially considering I never watch CNN and my opinions are informed 0% by them and as far as I know don't even resemble them.

We have most certainly not done more damage in the world over the past 50 or so years. We do not systematically torture enormous numbers of our prisoners. We do not commit terrorist attacks on our own citizens killing hundreds and injuring thousands in order to garner support for a civilian massacre (unless you believe the 9/11 conspiracies). We do not manipulate foreign democratic elections of major world powers in order to further our own terroristic agenda. I can continue the list if you would like more examples.

You are right though that over the past year or so we've been moving much closer towards resembling Russia and that trajectory is accelerating. In a few years maybe we will be just as bad. The proliferation of fake news in the US and governmental brainwashing is a great first step to becoming more like Russia. Maybe next will be a Trump-orchestrated terrorist attack blamed on Islamists to build public support for the travel ban he's been failing to get through.
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Yeah man, russia is evil, america/nato is just a bit less evil
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