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#11
Sep 20 2015 10:49am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 20 2015 11:56am)
Venezuela have a big responsability considering their natural ressources especially on the ecological side
For europe, all that shit in middle east is our fault anyway, and taking a very few part of those refugees should not the that invasion problem (theres not that much)
Germany takes really much more than others btw, they are used to this with turks maybe, not sure...


No it is not our responsibility. It is NOT your responsibility. Let Saudi Arabia, UAE and those rich gulf countries handle their people. Why do swedish people feel they have a "responsibility" to bring refugees if they themselves were not even involved in any of these wars?. In any case, those responsible should be the USA, France and UK mostly.

Each country has a responsibility to THEIR OWN people, not to people from other countries. Wtf?. For example: If I have a wife and 3 children and a nice home, and it happens that im successful and rich, then just because of that I have the "responsibility and obligation" to give shelter and receive children from other failed families?, why?, it is not my fault nor my problem if the parents of those other failed families were not responsible and didnt work and prosper, I dont have to take everybodys children and feed them because of the failures and irresponsibilities of others. Whats wrong with you?, my responsibility and obligation are towards my own family, my blood and creation, not towards others I have no relation to, also If I start taking them all I will eventually go bankupt and my home will become a mess because those children coming in are not educated and dont have the same values I thought to my children from the moment they were born.

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Sep 20 2015 10:50am
Quote (Golden_Order @ Sep 20 2015 10:48am)
(I'm not old but if you talk to anyone over 70 years old, they can tell you how different and shitty everything is now compared to those years and if you read Venezuelan history you can confirm this)



Confirmed that ignorant-less-smart old people are the same all over the world.
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Sep 20 2015 10:51am
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No thats so wrong. Read my post again. I'm talking about the Venezuela of the 50s (not the Venezuela of the 70s which was in decline). Late 50s Venezuela used to be prosperous at the level of what we can currently consider "first world" countries in terms of quality of life and per capita income, etc. We also had (and still have) a lot of oil so we have always been a rich country, but in the 50s BOTH the state and the people were prosperous, nowadays only the state is rich but the people are miserable (corruption and degradation during the last 50 years). Please read and inform yourself before talking nonsense.

Sweden has become the #1 rape country in Europe (Sweden had the #1 life quality in the world with almost no rape back in the 90s) is that what you call progress and benefit from taking everyone with open arms without any control? Maybe swedish girls love to be raped? is that what you are implying?. Also many immigrants dont integrate and form cities and communities of their own with their own islamic rules (see examples in Belgium, the Netherlands and UK where the police cant even enter those cities, they are called "No go zones"). Looks like you are not handling it well either, I would say you are just starting to lose parts of your countries and this problem will only increase with time. Its amazing how you europeans are defending your own demise.




I'm using Venezuela as an example, because the parallelism and similarities are almost the same. But its going to be worse for europeans due to the complete difference in cultures.


Venezuela didnt lose to immigration. It lost to communism and it continues to lose to corrupt and shitty politics... and yes I'm obviously implying swedish girls love to get raped.

Bugger off back to stormfront where people take you seriously.

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Sep 20 2015 11:03am
in the future, a perfect society: robots do all the work and the citizens relax.

nowadays, we have to use refugees instead of robots, and citizens sit on their asses directing them from the manager seat ...

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Sep 20 2015 11:06am
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Sweden has become the #1 rape country in Europe (Sweden had the #1 life quality in the world with almost no rape back in the 90s)

are you familiar with how Sweden counts cases of rape? it's a bit different from most other countries. the concept of sexual assault is also a bit larger in the Swedish judicial system. the only actual jump in dem statistics came when the way that sexual assault enters Swedish statistics was altered.

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Also many immigrants dont integrate and form cities and communities of their own with their own islamic rules (see examples in Belgium, the Netherlands and UK where the police cant even enter those cities, they are called "No go zones").

how about the communities that Christian Aramaics have formed? and i'm very sure that they don't have "Islamic rules" apart from that one case in Britain a few years back in which those few converts went around placing stickers on stuff.
also "Zone urbaine sensible" isn't a no-go zone, idk where that rumour started from. are you sure that the police can't enter Rotterdam, Haag or Birmingham?


Quote (Golden_Order @ Sep 20 2015 07:35pm)
I'm using Venezuela as an example, because the parallelism and similarities are almost the same

everything seems to be about Venezuela to you.
lol no tho.

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Sep 20 2015 11:07am
Quote (Scaly @ Sep 20 2015 12:21pm)
Venezuela didnt lose to immigration. It lost to communism and it continues to lose to corrupt and shitty politics... and yes I'm obviously implying swedish girls love to get raped.

Bugger off back to stormfront where people take you seriously.


Venezuela did lose to communism that true. But how did communism manage to get strong to eventually grow and take over our country and society?. In order for communism to grow strong and take over it needs a miserable and poor society in which it can flourish. The Venezuela of the late 50s was prosperous and successful, therefore communism during those years was not compatible with the Venezuelan society. So, the society had to be corrupted and destroyed first, therefore the first step was the destruction of the national identity, education, values, institutions, etc, by bringing the bottom of the society of our neighboring countries, this was done first by the neo-socialist governments of AD and COPEI from the early 60s to the late 90s, the destruction was slow but non-stop, by the late 90s, our society was corrupted and "sick" (using a word that can describe that at that point we were in trouble), then Chavez came with his communist ideas and policies (which were welcomed by a corrupted and less-smart failed society) and accelerated the destruction of Venezuela that ended up slaving us all.

This is more complex, but my point is that it all started with bringing undesired-uneducated immigration during the 60s 70s and 80s. You can ask any Venezuelan about this.

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Sep 20 2015 11:08am
Quote (Golden_Order @ 20 Sep 2015 17:49)
No it is not our responsibility. It is NOT your responsibility. Let Saudi Arabia, UAE and those rich gulf countries handle their people. Why do swedish people feel they have a "responsibility" to bring refugees if they themselves were not even involved in any of these wars?. In any case, those responsible should be the USA, France and UK mostly.

Each country has a responsibility to THEIR OWN people, not to people from other countries. Wtf?. For example: If I have a wife and 3 children and a nice home, and it happens that im successful and rich, then just because of that I have the "responsibility and obligation" to give shelter and receive children from other failed families?, why?, it is not my fault nor my problem if the parents of those other failed families were not responsible and didnt work and prosper, I dont have to take everybodys children and feed them because of the failures and irresponsibilities of others. Whats wrong with you?, my responsibility and obligation is towards my own family, my blood and creation, not towards others I have no relation to, also If I start taking them all I will eventually go bankupt and my home will become a mess because those children coming it are not educated and dont have the same values I thought to my children from the moment they were born.


you didnt properly understood what i said
hmm i try to make it more clear:

- those refugees are the fault of NATO mostly
- should not be that a big deal to get a very few part

- and now we got the other neo sionist nazi retard posting inflamatory stuff in your topic....
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Sep 20 2015 11:10am
The brainwashing must be very high in the european educational system and media, seeing as how almost all the posters replying defending their own suicidal policies are europeans themselves. Well, your loss, not mine. Lets see in 30 years when you all become a shitty failed continent like Africa.
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Sep 20 2015 11:20am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Sep 20 2015 12:08pm)
you didnt properly understood what i said
hmm i try to make it more clear:

- those refugees are the fault of NATO mostly
- should not be that a big deal to get a very few part

- and now we got the other neo sionist nazi retard posting inflamatory stuff in your topic....


What?
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Sep 20 2015 11:21am
Quote (Golden_Order @ 20 Sep 2015 18:10)
The brainwashing must be very high in the european educational system and media, seeing as how almost all the posters replying defending their own suicidal policies are europeans themselves. Well, your loss, not mine. Lets see in 30 years when you all become a shitty failed continent like Africa.


yes the media, they are talking about those refugeed alot, really alot, because they like when ppl are feared, they like when ppl freeze front of their channel.
so they are talking about those refugees like an invasion, a cataclysm... and yet i think you got a little bit catched by them


Quote (bogie160 @ 20 Sep 2015 18:20)
What?


too complicated for you, just go vote for trump

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Sep 20 2015 11:24am
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