Quote (Golden_Order @ 20 Sep 2015 15:48)

I would like to ask swedish people (the rest of the europeans are welcome to join the discussion) why do they welcome illegal undesired-uneducated immigration with open arms even if evidence is showing that your country is slowly falling down in terms of quality of life. Illegal undesired-uneducated immigration didnt work in Venezuela and we are all hispanics here, what makes you think it will work between two societies totally different? (Africa+Middle Easterns cultures vs Swedish culture) is not going to work it never works not even when the cultures are the same.

At the end of the 50s decade, we reached the point in which we used to be the most prosperous and stable country in Latin America (many europeans came to Venezuela during the 40s and 50s and helped turn Venezuela into the most prosperous country of Latin America). Then the neo-socialist populist governments of AD and COPEI decided to bring the worst of the society from our neighboring countries so these undesired immigrants would vote for them in the elections (the lazy, the uneducated, the criminals escaping their countries, etc etc, who then reproduced like rabbits and their children continued reproducing like rabbits with no responsibilities) of Colombia, Ecuador, Peru and Bolivia flooded Venezuela in the 60s, 70s and 80s, which ended in a disastrous result: Our identity, decency, morals, and so many more aspects of life like security, education, etc, faded away because those who came never felt part of this country, so they didnt respect the law and didnt care about our national customs etc. Eventually Venezuela became something very different to what it was in the 50s (I'm not old but if you talk to anyone over 70 years old, they cal tell you how different and shitty everything is now compared to those years and if you read Venezuelan history you can confirm this), hence becoming a shithole with ignorant-less-smart people who eventually became easily manipulated to fall under the lies and deceits of Hugo Chavez who finished the job AD and COPEI started (finished to destroy the last remains of a working society and turned us into slaves). Now our people are just slaves, but my point is that it began with bringing undesired immigration is large uncontrolled quantities like its happening right now in Sweden and many other european countries.

Why are you allowing this to happen?, why are you so weak?, why are you "suiciding" yourself like this?. Having love for your country and your culture is not racism, is has nothing to do with nazis or facism. Man up and defend what is yours!, thats not racism!, this happened to us already and we lost our country and 40-50 years later we have been subjugated and we are now a neo-slave society, I would hate to see this happen to successful countries (especially in Europe).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KSJY0c8QWw


Or is it that you guys hate yourselves or what the fuck is wrong with you?

Quote (Scaly @ Sep 20 2015 11:20am)

Well if they allow it then it's not illegal is it?

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Quote (Golden_Order @ 20 Sep 2015 15:53)

Is that all you can debate?. Let me reedit my post and delete the "illegal" word. So you can explain me why you european people are destroying yourself like this?.

Note: "Illegal" word deleted from the main post to start a real debate.

Quote (Golden_Order @ Sep 20 2015 07:48am)

I would like to ask swedish people (the rest of the europeans are welcome to join the discussion) why do they welcome undesired-uneducated immigration with open arms even if evidence is showing that your country is slowly falling down in terms of quality of life. Undesired-uneducated immigration didnt work in Venezuela and we are all hispanics here, what makes you think it will work between two societies totally different? (Africa+Middle Easterns cultures vs Swedish/European culture) is not going to work, it never works not even when the cultures are the same.

At the end of the 50s decade, we reached the point in which we used to be the most prosperous and stable country in Latin America (many europeans came to Venezuela during the 40s and 50s and helped turn Venezuela into the most prosperous country of Latin America). Then the neo-socialist populist governments of AD and COPEI decided to bring the worst of the society from our neighboring countries so these undesired immigrants would vote for them in the elections (the lazy, the uneducated, the criminals escaping their countries, etc etc, who then reproduced like rabbits and their children continued reproducing like rabbits with no responsibilities) of Colombia, Ecuador, Peru and Bolivia flooded Venezuela in the 60s, 70s and 80s, which ended in a disastrous result: Our identity, decency, morals, and so many more aspects of life like security, education, etc, faded away because those who came never felt part of this country, so they didnt respect the law and didnt care about our national customs etc. Eventually Venezuela became something very different to what it was in the 50s (I'm not old but if you talk to anyone over 70 years old, they cal tell you how different and shitty everything is now compared to those years and if you read Venezuelan history you can confirm this), hence becoming a shithole with ignorant-less-smart people who eventually became easily manipulated to fall under the lies and deceits of Hugo Chavez who finished the job AD and COPEI started (finished to destroy the last remains of a working society and turned us into slaves). Now our people are just slaves, but my point is that it began with bringing undesired immigration is large uncontrolled quantities like its happening right now in Sweden and many other european countries.

Why are you allowing this to happen?, why are you so weak?, why are you "suiciding" yourself like this?. Having love for your country and your culture is not racism, is has nothing to do with nazis or facism. Man up and defend what is yours!, thats not racism!, this happened to us already and we lost our country and 40-50 years later we have been subjugated and we are now a neo-slave society, I would hate to see this happen to successful countries (especially in Europe).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KSJY0c8QWw


Or is it that you guys hate yourselves or what the fuck is wrong with you?

Quote (Scaly @ Sep 20 2015 11:28am)

Mate... Venezuela has always been a shithole. The countries accepting immigrants now have literally over 20x the GDP Venezuela had in the 70s even accounting for inflation. Just because Venezuela can't handle it doesn't mean richer, better, more socially stable countries can't.

Quote (Comus @ Sep 20 2015 11:32am)

Thread about Europe going to shit---> Posts about Venezuela going to shit