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Aug 19 2015 01:48pm
Quote (S3th @ Aug 19 2015 03:27pm)
I walked away from the Catholic Church around the end of highschool/first years of Uni. (I was indoctrinated into from birth.)

Junior year of Uni. I went on a mission trip and was displeased with those I was serving with. The comments they made, were justified but sent an ugly message to me once again.

I then dated a Pentecostal over the summer of 2014. Which she broke up with me twice due to my challenging and non supportive effort towards her beliefs.

Then a friend of mine started to go to AA in December. He asked if I would support him by going to C20 with him. (c20 is a 20+ College Worship/Leader/Public Nondenominational Group started to go and have only missed one or two times since December. (It's every Thursday night)

Since then I've joined numerous small groups, bible studies, worships, different church services.

I'm growing in my walk with Christ daily but I feel as if my past makes the effort extraordinary to someone who doesn't have a lot of knowledge.

To unlearn the Catholic Religion, to debate my old self's beliefs against the Bible and such. (Many of which I have proven false and inaccurate.)

I'm definitely applying what I'm learning through Christ into my life. And have been doing such since December. But it's getting easier to apply as I grow.


That's great! I understand past hurts, I've had some unlearning to do myself. I'd just like to encourage you to continue to keep the Bible as your standard and live your life accordingly. I'll pray for you, and feel free to personal message me any time if you have any questions.

Here is a great passage.

Philippians 3:13-16

13 Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. 15 Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you. 16 Only let us hold true to what we have attained.
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Aug 19 2015 02:18pm
Quote (DiS505 @ Aug 19 2015 01:31pm)
The King James Version is not the only Bible translated using formal equivalence.

Others translated using formal equivalence: the ESV, NRSV, and NASB, among others.

The reason I recommend these over the KJV, like I've said before, is because they are translated into modern English, not old English. Therefore, for the modern-day reader I believe they are more effective at communicating God's message.



Also, S3th, how have you been doing since receiving the ESV? The important thing is not only to read the word, but to live it out in your daily life.

John 15:13-14
John 8:30-32
James 1:22-25


the i link i posted was for the scriptures which i believe indicates God's promise to preserve his word
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Aug 19 2015 07:08pm
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the i link i posted was for the scriptures which i believe indicates God's promise to preserve his word



Yes... I believe his word has been preserved through several translations and the original manuscripts. None of the scriptures in that link point to there being one single English translation through which God will preserve His word specifically, let alone that translation being the King James Version.
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Aug 19 2015 07:14pm
Quote (DiS505 @ Aug 19 2015 01:06pm)
God's word was originally written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. There is nowhere in Scripture that suggests there has to be a "God's preserved word" in any language, let alone English. Your thinking is fundamentally flawed and you are teaching a doctrine which is inconsistent with God's character. Any English translation is adequate so long as it expresses the original thoughts and meanings behind the text it has translated. There is no evidence to suggest that the King James Version does this any better or worse than another English translation.


There is nowhere in Scripture that suggests there has to be a "God's preserved word" in any language, let alone English.

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Aug 19 2015 07:51pm
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There is nowhere in Scripture that suggests there has to be a "God's preserved word" in any language, let alone English.



Yeah, that any one specific version is the single preserved word of God.

Obviously as a whole the Scriptures need to be preserved.

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Aug 19 2015 07:56pm
Quote (DiS505 @ Aug 19 2015 08:51pm)
Yeah, that any one specific version is the single preserved word of God.

Obviously as a whole the Scriptures need to be preserved.


ok...so when 2 English versions disagree they both can be God's preserved word?
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Aug 19 2015 08:59pm
I would advise reading all bible stories, not just the ones that made it into current codex.
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Aug 19 2015 09:30pm
Quote (MaliceMizer @ Aug 19 2015 09:59pm)
I would advise reading all bible stories, not just the ones that made it into current codex.


and i would advise you to repent while there's still time
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Aug 20 2015 12:51am
why not learn hebrew and get an original copy. that will be so much valid, because obviously jesus wrote it himself with his own blood.
The bible is not made by men but by god himself. He wrote the original, made a thousand copies and e voila you have a god made book ready to be published.
Very valid.
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Aug 20 2015 06:30am
Quote (omg_banned @ Aug 19 2015 09:56pm)
ok...so when 2 English versions disagree they both can be God's preserved word?



They don't disagree. Like I said, there are several versions of the Bible translated using the same method as the KJV. Some leave out lines or verses that weren't in the original manuscripts or were added later, the King James does not. I'm done with this discussion, though. By all means, continue to read the KJV. It's still the word of God, just not exclusively.

Quote (Hooo @ Aug 20 2015 02:51am)
why not learn hebrew and get an original copy. that will be so much valid, because obviously jesus wrote it himself with his own blood.
The bible is not made by men but by god himself. He wrote the original, made a thousand copies and e voila you have a god made book ready to be published.
Very valid.



Thank you for your well researched input.

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