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Jun 30 2015 08:26am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 26 2015 02:38am)
Clearly its because Santara is actually a closeted republican who secretly voted for mitt romney when it came to the moment of truth in '12, he even went through the incredibly elaborate steps of getting himself seen actively campaigning, crusading at length and even photoshopping pictures of his ballot in attempt to live with himself for not casting a vote for some crazy dirty old man who was going to steal votes away from vanilla cheesecake. I think after this many years he's even repressed the memory and convinced himself he's a libertarian at heart. We should stage an intervention and bring out all that latent homophobia, jingooism and ignorant rejection of science he doesn't display publicly.


His jingoism amounts to jiggery poker-y covered in applesauce. Btw , thanks Justice Scalia for my two new favorite words of dissent.

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Jun 30 2015 09:08am
Quote (Pollster @ Jun 30 2015 09:12am)
What I appreciate most about Obamacare is that it's directly responsible for the creation of another Republican reality. The reform is obviously succeeding by every single socio-economic metric we use to evaluate healthcare reforms, and even reform more broadly, but yet these people are still herpin' and derpin' about the reform not working or even more hilarious, making things worse.

The ACA really did cause an avalanche of unintended comedy . It's a gold mine.


The ACA did nothing to address the soaring costs of healthcare in general. Healthcare spending per capita and as a share of GDP are still rising and still outstripping inflation + population growth. It changed who pays for whom, on the back of massive taxing & spending.
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Jul 2 2015 02:39pm
Have to do a policy paper on the ACA. The biggest problem I've seen so far is that while there is increased funding for people with behavioral problems, the puritan ethic that keeps funding from chemical dependency research and practice still exists and shows in the legislation.

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The ACA did nothing to address the soaring costs of healthcare in general. Healthcare spending per capita and as a share of GDP are still rising and still outstripping inflation + population growth. It changed who pays for whom, on the back of massive taxing & spending.


Hard to achieve universal coverage without raising the costs some as long as thieves are stealing profit between health service providers and the individuals they serve.

The health insurance industry should be nationalized and made non-profit. Or private non-profit at least.

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Jul 2 2015 03:05pm
*Obama - your premiums will not go up!

*Real life - premiums go up

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Jul 2 2015 03:15pm
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Have to do a policy paper on the ACA. The biggest problem I've seen so far is that while there is increased funding for people with behavioral problems, the puritan ethic that keeps funding from chemical dependency research and practice still exists and shows in the legislation.



Hard to achieve universal coverage without raising the costs some as long as thieves are stealing profit between health service providers and the individuals they serve.

The health insurance industry should be nationalized and made non-profit. Or private non-profit at least.



Hopefully this will be in the sights of this next 2016 pro-Uni-health care president.

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Jul 2 2015 03:20pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Jul 2 2015 04:05pm)
*Obama - your premiums will not go up!

*Real life - premiums go up


Holy shit, are you actually saying that a politician broke a promise?

I just don't believe it.
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Jul 2 2015 03:43pm
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Hard to achieve universal coverage without raising the costs some as long as thieves are stealing profit between health service providers and the individuals they serve.

The health insurance industry should be nationalized and made non-profit. Or private non-profit at least.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterubel/2014/02/12/is-the-profit-motive-ruining-american-healthcare/
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Jul 2 2015 03:47pm
Quote (Skinned @ Jul 2 2015 05:20pm)
Holy shit, are you actually saying that a politician broke a promise?

I just don't believe it.


But it is quite hilarious when you get people claiming that they didn't go up.
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Jul 2 2015 04:05pm
Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ 2 Jul 2015 16:47)
But it is quite hilarious when you get people claiming that they didn't go up.


Quote (IgoSoHard @ 2 Jul 2015 16:05)
*Obama - your premiums will not go up!

*Real life - premiums go up



Hey guess what Mine didn't go up!

Because I couldn't even fucking afford health Insurance before Obamacare so yeah :thumbsup: Obamacare :thumbsup:
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Jul 2 2015 04:08pm
Quote (Santara @ Jul 2 2015 04:43pm)


I said make health insurance non-profit, not health care. It would knock at least a few percent in costs off the GDP.
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