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May 15 2015 07:20pm
Quote (IceMage @ May 15 2015 09:13pm)
Why does using capital punishment on this terrorist weaken our nation as a whole? I've never understood that argument. We are at war with radical Islam, and I don't think pretending helps us in this fight.



Because it strengthens the enemies resolve. Virtue of it not strengthening the United States and it doing the opposite for the enemy it weakens the U.S. You forgot that the radical Islam cause relies on convincing people to join them, and it's pretty easy for them to shape the discourse while recruiting new personnel if they paint Tsarnaev as a freedom fighter executed by the tyrants. It's irrelevant if it's true or not.
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May 15 2015 07:23pm
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Because it strengthens the enemies resolve. Virtue of it not strengthening the United States and it doing the opposite for the enemy it weakens the U.S. You forgot that the radical Islam cause relies on convincing people to join them, and it's pretty easy for them to shape the discourse while recruiting new personnel if they paint Tsarnaev as a freedom fighter executed by the tyrants. It's irrelevant if it's true or not.


...so if we bought him a basket of flowers , a teddy bear and a plane ticket to Syria it would weaken the resolve of the enemy ?
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May 15 2015 07:23pm
I DUN THINK HE DID IT THO
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May 15 2015 07:25pm
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Because it strengthens the enemies resolve. Virtue of it not strengthening the United States and it doing the opposite for the enemy it weakens the U.S. You forgot that the radical Islam cause relies on convincing people to join them, and it's pretty easy for them to shape the discourse while recruiting new personnel if they paint Tsarnaev as a freedom fighter executed by the tyrants. It's irrelevant if it's true or not.


I expected this kind of response.

I think it definitely has merit. This is sort of similar to the Obama administration's commitment to not relate ISIS with Islam. It didn't make sense to me at first, but I began to realize it was a good strategy.

Still, I think as a rule, it's good for America to execute home grown terrorists.
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May 15 2015 07:26pm
Exactly. I understand and accept capital punishment, I just need it to fit into the overall strategy of the war.

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ May 15 2015 09:23pm)
...so if we bought him a basket of flowers , a teddy bear and a plane ticket to Syria it would weaken the resolve of the enemy ?


Great, strawmans. I hope when I'm your age I have something better to do than troll on a video game forum.

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May 15 2015 07:31pm
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I expected this kind of response.

I think it definitely has merit. This is sort of similar to the Obama administration's commitment to not relate ISIS with Islam. It didn't make sense to me at first, but I began to realize it was a good strategy.

Still, I think as a rule, it's good for America to execute home grown terrorists.


Are you sick? You should see a doctor. You just said something positive about obama.
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May 15 2015 07:35pm
Quote (Scaly @ May 15 2015 04:39pm)
/shrug

Of course he got the death penalty. As if anything else was going to happen.



Because he's not already world famous for them.


hes world famous now, sits in jail and every few years rehashes shit. Look at manson, finds his stupid face into the spotlight just enough to remind people es crazy as fuck. Some bomber kid basically raised in prison with a religious political agenda. Fuck that, if he didnt do it he knows who did and hes diving on the sword. He knew what was at play the whole time. Chop him out he would be cancerous to a cancer ridden system.
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May 15 2015 07:40pm
Quote (hATemOnkEy @ May 15 2015 06:54pm)
Again, the use of terror is not restricted to inflicting physical harm (such as bombing or shooting).




Do you deny that the Christian right has power in the US?


So what, though?

Power is not an illegitimate concept. All social groups have power in one form or another. That doesn't make them a threat to the state.
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May 15 2015 07:41pm
Quote (Scaly @ May 15 2015 05:30pm)
What I'm saying s not ridiculous. Your government and law enforcement agencies agree with me. The greatest terror threat in the US currently is Right-Wing, Nationalist and Christian terrorist groups.


Lo no. What a idiotic statement. Please provide us with some stats that support your outlandish claims? If your statement was true you would be able to provide some evidence rather than some fringe cases. Islamic fundamentalist attacks dwarf the ones you listed and Christianity doesn't even belong with the other two. I suppose i shouldn't expect much from you though.
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May 15 2015 07:45pm
"Don't agree with capital punishment. But his crimes under the law warrant the punishment.

He'll sit in appeals for 5+ years and then it will be a media spectacle when he finally gets killed.

Ideally should just put him in prison for the rest of his life."


Fits my views to a T
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