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May 15 2015 06:38pm
Quote (Sakuraba @ 15 May 2015 19:35)
excellent retort, dude.



was a hip shot
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Complete bullshit. Saying it over and over doesn't make it true. Our national security agencies are mostly concerned with Muslim terrorist groups. The past 10 years, terrorist attacks in the United States have been solely from Muslims. Just because the FBI mentions right-wing groups in their report doesn't mean that it's the most serious threat. You are spouting a conspiratorial talking point.




Only Muslims have committed terrorist attacks in the US in the past 10 years? What kind of crazy bullshit bubble are you living in? Are you a prisoner in Bill O'Reilly's house or something?

Also I never said they were the most serious. I said they were as much of a risk.

We're done here. If you're gonna just outright lie, make shit up, put words in my mouth and/or ignore the facts then there really is no way to have any kind of productive conversation.

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Only Muslims have committed terrorist attacks in the US in the past 10 years? What kind of crazy bullshit bubble are you living in? Are you a prisoner in Bill O'Reilly's house or something?

We're done here. If you're gonna just outright lie and/or ignore the facts then there really is no way to have any kind of productive conversation.


:rofl:

If you had an argument you would use it.
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May 15 2015 06:47pm
Quote (IceMage @ 16 May 2015 00:40)
:rofl:

If you had an argument you would use it.


Do i really need to provide evidence that someone other than a Muslim has committed a terrorist attack on US soil within the last 10 years? I mean why even argue with someone dumb enough to say that only muslims have committed terrorist attacks in the US in the last decade? What's to be gained?

I don't need to back up the statement. It's evident to anyone who reads your post that you're talking out of your arse and that's why we're done. Because you're lying to my face or completely fucking delusional.

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Do i really need to provide evidence that someone other than a Muslim has committed a terrorist attack on US soil within the last 10 years? I mean why even argue with someone dumb enough to say that only muslims have committed terrorist attacks in the US in the last decade? What's to be gained?

I don't need to back up the statement. It's evident to anyone who reads your post that you're talking out of your arse and that's why we're done. Because you're lying to my face or completely fucking delusional.


You could go ahead and provide the evidence, and we can go from there. I'm watching the Sopranos, take your time.

inb4 wikipedia references

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You could go ahead and provide the evidence, and we can go from there. I'm watching the Sopranos, take your time.


Neo Nazi shooting at Jewish community center and retirement home last year -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overland_Park_Jewish_Community_Center_shooting

Sikh Temple shot up by idiot Islamophobe -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting

Police officer killed in police shooting by Right-Wing survivalist nutter -

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/31/us-usa-pennsylvania-shooting-idUSKBN0IJ2SP20141031

There's 3 that came up with a quick google search. All within the last 3 years.


Also - Sopranos is the shit. Great show. Great ending.

e/ damn lol. Inb4'd.

There are other reports on the incidents - I'm sure you can find them with your own quick google search if you think Wikipedia is just making those incidents up.

This post was edited by Scaly on May 15 2015 07:06pm
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This has little utility. Don't mind the death penalty for serial killers or similar psychopathic sadists but terrorism is an entirely different beast. Killing him makes him a martyr when he otherwise wouldn't be. The Tsarnaev attacks were about American imperialism not radical Islam but his death will lend credence to radical Islam. You need it to crush convictions and causes not men. Killing some brainwashed kid weakens you and makes him into something he's not. It's also the easy way out, I'd rather die than spend my life in one of the most mentally devastating prisons in the world, ADX Florence.
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May 15 2015 07:08pm
...it didn't take long for this to turn into a jihad apologist thread .
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Neo Nazi shooting at Jewish community center and retirement home last year -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overland_Park_Jewish_Community_Center_shooting

Sikh Temple shot up by idiot Islamophobe -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting

Police officer killed in police shooting by Right-Wing survivalist nutter -

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/31/us-usa-pennsylvania-shooting-idUSKBN0IJ2SP20141031

There's 3 that came up with a quick google search. All within the last 3 years.


Also - Sopranos is the shit. Great show. Great ending.


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You could go ahead and provide the evidence, and we can go from there. I'm watching the Sopranos, take your time.

inb4 wikipedia references


Thanks.

Just because a shooting is carried out by a politically oriented person doesn't mean it is a terrorist attack. The attack on the Sikh temple is probably, the other 2 really aren't.

Islamic extremism is a clear and present danger for the United States. Right-wing extremism, or Christian extremism, is not. That's why the United States does not allocate billions to fight off right-wing, or Christian terrorism.

The fight against radical Islam is a global one.

The Sopranos ending sucked balls though.
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May 15 2015 07:13pm
Quote (Caedus @ May 15 2015 08:05pm)
This has little utility. Don't mind the death penalty for serial killers or similar psychopathic sadists but terrorism is an entirely different beast. Killing him makes him a martyr when he otherwise wouldn't be. The Tsarnaev attacks were about American imperialism not radical Islam but his death will lend credence to radical Islam. You need it to crush convictions and causes not men. Killing some brainwashed kid weakens you and makes him into something he's not. It's also the easy way out, I'd rather die than spend my life in one of the most mentally devastating prisons in the world, ADX Florence.


Why does using capital punishment on this terrorist weaken our nation as a whole? I've never understood that argument. We are at war with radical Islam, and I don't think pretending helps us in this fight.
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