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Jan 15 2015 01:18am
Quote (magpies @ 15 Jan 2015 07:12)
Evolution cant be used to explain evolution that is the main problem imo.


What are you talking about?
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Jan 15 2015 01:31am
Quote (duffman316 @ Jan 14 2015 10:49pm)
ever try opening a coconut? what kind of god would make the damn thing so hard to open while banana's open easily?


a monkey created the universe
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Jan 15 2015 01:57am
Quote (magpies @ 15 Jan 2015 02:12)
Evolution cant be used to explain evolution that is the main problem imo.



:rofl: you need a god to explain creationism that's a much bigger problem
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Jan 15 2015 01:58am
Quote (Valhalls_Sun @ 15 Jan 2015 07:57)
:rofl:  you need a god to explain creationism that's a much bigger problem


I'll create your universe ;)
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Quote (kyle_lowry2 @ Jan 14 2015 05:19pm)
The world has been created 5775 years ago. Scientists rely on carbon-14 dating from bones. No one can tell you that they are 100% right.

The First Day
On the first day, G-d said, “Let there be Light” -- and there was Light.

The Second Day
On the second day G-d made the sky, and called it Heaven.

The Third Day
On the third day, G-d put the earth into good shape. At His command the waters of the earth gathered together at certain places. The waters formed seas and oceans, lakes and rivers, so that in other parts, the dry land became visible.At G-d’s further command, the earth was made to produce all kinds of plants, grass, and trees, shrubs and flowers. Each contained its own seed for further growth and reproduction.

The Fourth Day
On the fourth day, G-d made the Sun, the Moon, and the Stars, to shed light upon the earth. And so He set a time for day and a time for night, a time for the week, the month, and the year, and a time for each of the four seasons.

The Fifth Day
On the fifth day, G-d filled the seas with fishes and other water animals. In to the air above the earth He put many birds of all kinds and colors and sizes.

The Sixth Day
On the sixth day, were created all the other animals, large and small, those that walk and those that creep or crawl on the earth. And towards the end of the sixth day, G-d put a divine soul into a body which He made of earth and clay. This was the human.To the human G-d granted high mental ability that one could think and reach one’s own conclusions. G-d also gave the human the power of speech and He made humans superior to all other creatures of the earth. G-d placed all the creatures of the earth and the powers of nature in the control of the human.

The Seventh Day
By the seventh day, everything was created and put into shape and order. And G-d rested on the seventh day and He glorified it as a day of rest. Therefore we should work for six days and rest on the Seventh day, Shabbat, which G-d blessed and sanctified for all time to come. By observing the Shabbat day, we show that we believe in G-d as the Creator of the world.



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Jan 15 2015 04:20am
Evolution and creation are not mutually exclusive.

Creation and abiogenesis are.
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Jan 15 2015 04:39am
Quote (balrog66 @ Jan 15 2015 05:20am)
Evolution and creation are not mutually exclusive.

Creation and abiogenesis are.


No they are not.
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Jan 15 2015 04:44am
Quote (Voyaging @ 15 Jan 2015 10:39)
No they are not.


This... even with abiogenesis one could argue that an intelligent designer made it happen. Such a claim would be completely stupid of course, just like it is without considering abiogenesis, but it would not be definitively refutable.

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Jan 15 2015 04:53am
Quote (Voyaging @ Jan 15 2015 10:39am)
No they are not.


Most interpretations of creation myths do hold pretty strongly to God(s) creating the life on earth. I mean, you could argue that it's supposed to be interpreted as 'The causal chain that started life was created by God(s)', but I don't think many religious folk hold to that belief.
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Jan 15 2015 05:11am
Quote (balrog66 @ Jan 15 2015 05:53am)
Most interpretations of creation myths do hold pretty strongly to God(s) creating the life on earth. I mean, you could argue that it's supposed to be interpreted as 'The causal chain that started life was created by God(s)', but I don't think many religious folk hold to that belief.


Well yes most do hold that but they aren't mutually exclusive beliefs.

I swear I just read an article about how abiogenesis does not conflict with Islamic belief but I can't seem to find it now.
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