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Jan 14 2015 09:14am
Apparently I should have posted this here and not in Christian fellowship...
So here's the repost!

I am not at all religious, I was brought up with both my parents being scientists in the areas of biology and environment and therefore my belief lies in science and evolution.

I also am not here to create any emotional arguments or have any one flame, insult or degrade another jsper for their views..
My interest lies solely in the opinions of Christians and non Christians on the history of the earth and its inhabitants, both animal and human.

Feel free to leave your views and opinions/arguments for either side in this thread.

I mention again this is purely for my own interest and I will report any poster who attacks or insults another for their opinion.
That said, I do encourage debate and question asking and answering as I find the views of both parties extremely interesting!
I will be tracking and commenting when possible.

Thank you for your time, I hope this creates a valid and constructive conversation.

Peace be with you all! <3
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Jan 14 2015 09:19am
The world has been created 5775 years ago. Scientists rely on carbon-14 dating from bones. No one can tell you that they are 100% right.

The First Day
On the first day, G-d said, “Let there be Light” -- and there was Light.

The Second Day
On the second day G-d made the sky, and called it Heaven.

The Third Day
On the third day, G-d put the earth into good shape. At His command the waters of the earth gathered together at certain places. The waters formed seas and oceans, lakes and rivers, so that in other parts, the dry land became visible.At G-d’s further command, the earth was made to produce all kinds of plants, grass, and trees, shrubs and flowers. Each contained its own seed for further growth and reproduction.

The Fourth Day
On the fourth day, G-d made the Sun, the Moon, and the Stars, to shed light upon the earth. And so He set a time for day and a time for night, a time for the week, the month, and the year, and a time for each of the four seasons.

The Fifth Day
On the fifth day, G-d filled the seas with fishes and other water animals. In to the air above the earth He put many birds of all kinds and colors and sizes.

The Sixth Day
On the sixth day, were created all the other animals, large and small, those that walk and those that creep or crawl on the earth. And towards the end of the sixth day, G-d put a divine soul into a body which He made of earth and clay. This was the human.To the human G-d granted high mental ability that one could think and reach one’s own conclusions. G-d also gave the human the power of speech and He made humans superior to all other creatures of the earth. G-d placed all the creatures of the earth and the powers of nature in the control of the human.

The Seventh Day
By the seventh day, everything was created and put into shape and order. And G-d rested on the seventh day and He glorified it as a day of rest. Therefore we should work for six days and rest on the Seventh day, Shabbat, which G-d blessed and sanctified for all time to come. By observing the Shabbat day, we show that we believe in G-d as the Creator of the world.

This post was edited by kyle_lowry2 on Jan 14 2015 09:21am
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Jan 14 2015 09:24am
Quote (kyle_lowry2 @ Jan 14 2015 11:19am)
The world has been created 5775 years ago. Scientists rely on carbon-14 dating from bones. No one can tell you that they are 100% right.


That said .... Carbon dating is much more likely to be accurate than the ramblings on parchment from thousands of years ago when people didn't understand the thousands of basic scientific principles we take for granted today .

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Jan 14 2015 09:24am
Quote (kyle_lowry2 @ Jan 14 2015 10:19am)
The world has been created 5775 years ago. Scientists rely on carbon-14 dating from bones. No one can tell you that they are 100% right.

The First Day
On the first day, G-d said, “Let there be Light” -- and there was Light.

The Second Day
On the second day G-d made the sky, and called it Heaven.

The Third Day
On the third day, G-d put the earth into good shape. At His command the waters of the earth gathered together at certain places. The waters formed seas and oceans, lakes and rivers, so that in other parts, the dry land became visible.At G-d’s further command, the earth was made to produce all kinds of plants, grass, and trees, shrubs and flowers. Each contained its own seed for further growth and reproduction.

The Fourth Day
On the fourth day, G-d made the Sun, the Moon, and the Stars, to shed light upon the earth. And so He set a time for day and a time for night, a time for the week, the month, and the year, and a time for each of the four seasons.

The Fifth Day
On the fifth day, G-d filled the seas with fishes and other water animals. In to the air above the earth He put many birds of all kinds and colors and sizes.

The Sixth Day
On the sixth day, were created all the other animals, large and small, those that walk and those that creep or crawl on the earth. And towards the end of the sixth day, G-d put a divine soul into a body which He made of earth and clay. This was the human.To the human G-d granted high mental ability that one could think and reach one’s own conclusions. G-d also gave the human the power of speech and He made humans superior to all other creatures of the earth. G-d placed all the creatures of the earth and the powers of nature in the control of the human.

The Seventh Day
By the seventh day, everything was created and put into shape and order. And G-d rested on the seventh day and He glorified it as a day of rest. Therefore we should work for six days and rest on the Seventh day, Shabbat, which G-d blessed and sanctified for all time to come. By observing the Shabbat day, we show that we believe in G-d as the Creator of the world.



I physically cannot believe the earth was created in 7 days..
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Jan 14 2015 09:28am
what was first there, the word or the light?
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Quote (bitg_pj @ Jan 14 2015 11:24am)
That said .... Carbon dating is much more likely to be accurate than the ramblings on parchment from thousands of years ago when people didn't understand the thousands of basic scientific principles we take for granted today .


That said .... You are just part of the ignorant people who couldn't bear commandments and got enslaved to their evil inclination. You decide to deny God in this world, but in the future world you will have to pay for it.
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I physically cannot believe the earth was created in 7 days..


can you believe it metaphorically :o ?
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Jan 14 2015 09:31am
Quote (kyle_lowry2 @ Jan 14 2015 10:19am)
The world has been created 5775 years ago. Scientists rely on carbon-14 dating from bones. No one can tell you that they are 100% right.

The First Day
On the first day, G-d said, “Let there be Light” -- and there was Light.

The Second Day
On the second day G-d made the sky, and called it Heaven.

The Third Day
On the third day, G-d put the earth into good shape. At His command the waters of the earth gathered together at certain places. The waters formed seas and oceans, lakes and rivers, so that in other parts, the dry land became visible.At G-d’s further command, the earth was made to produce all kinds of plants, grass, and trees, shrubs and flowers. Each contained its own seed for further growth and reproduction.

The Fourth Day
On the fourth day, G-d made the Sun, the Moon, and the Stars, to shed light upon the earth. And so He set a time for day and a time for night, a time for the week, the month, and the year, and a time for each of the four seasons.

The Fifth Day
On the fifth day, G-d filled the seas with fishes and other water animals. In to the air above the earth He put many birds of all kinds and colors and sizes.

The Sixth Day
On the sixth day, were created all the other animals, large and small, those that walk and those that creep or crawl on the earth. And towards the end of the sixth day, G-d put a divine soul into a body which He made of earth and clay. This was the human.To the human G-d granted high mental ability that one could think and reach one’s own conclusions. G-d also gave the human the power of speech and He made humans superior to all other creatures of the earth. G-d placed all the creatures of the earth and the powers of nature in the control of the human.

The Seventh Day
By the seventh day, everything was created and put into shape and order. And G-d rested on the seventh day and He glorified it as a day of rest. Therefore we should work for six days and rest on the Seventh day, Shabbat, which G-d blessed and sanctified for all time to come. By observing the Shabbat day, we show that we believe in G-d as the Creator of the world.


Hmmmmm
Is this young earth creationism taught in your public schools?

This post was edited by Morphmcmanerson on Jan 14 2015 09:49am
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Jan 14 2015 10:35am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baalbek

at least 9000 years old



http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Gbekli_Tepe

at least 12000 years old

http://histclo.com/chron/na/na-ice.html

Native American Civilizations: Ice Age Migration

Archeologists once almost unanimously dated this crossing (the ice bridge)at about 13,500 years ago.

although

carbon dating a charcoal fire pits can be found that predate this

http://www.ramsdale.org/dna10.htm

This ancestral human population lived in Africa and started to split up 144,000 years ago. This time period is when both the mitochondrial and Y chromosome trees first branch out.

You will also notice that the analysis of DNA from many ancient skeletons and mummies (studies mentioned below) is performed on the mitochondrial DNA, or mtDNA. This "ancient" DNA is often degraded and present in very small quantities. mtDNA offers the best chance of isolating DNA from ancient samples because it is small and is present in the cell with many copies.

also consider exactly how sedimentary rock is formed

how crystal structures in underground caves are form

how long it takes to petrify something into stone

plate tectonics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_drift

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gondwana



anyone who says the earth is 6000 years old - is an idiot.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Jan 14 2015 11:04am
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Jan 14 2015 10:51am
Quote (kyle_lowry2 @ Jan 14 2015 10:19am)
The world has been created 5775 years ago. Scientists rely on carbon-14 dating from bones. No one can tell you that they are 100% right.

The First Day
On the first day, G-d said, “Let there be Light” -- and there was Light.

The Second Day
On the second day G-d made the sky, and called it Heaven.

The Third Day
On the third day, G-d put the earth into good shape. At His command the waters of the earth gathered together at certain places. The waters formed seas and oceans, lakes and rivers, so that in other parts, the dry land became visible.At G-d’s further command, the earth was made to produce all kinds of plants, grass, and trees, shrubs and flowers. Each contained its own seed for further growth and reproduction.

The Fourth Day
On the fourth day, G-d made the Sun, the Moon, and the Stars, to shed light upon the earth. And so He set a time for day and a time for night, a time for the week, the month, and the year, and a time for each of the four seasons.

The Fifth Day
On the fifth day, G-d filled the seas with fishes and other water animals. In to the air above the earth He put many birds of all kinds and colors and sizes.

The Sixth Day
On the sixth day, were created all the other animals, large and small, those that walk and those that creep or crawl on the earth. And towards the end of the sixth day, G-d put a divine soul into a body which He made of earth and clay. This was the human.To the human G-d granted high mental ability that one could think and reach one’s own conclusions. G-d also gave the human the power of speech and He made humans superior to all other creatures of the earth. G-d placed all the creatures of the earth and the powers of nature in the control of the human.

The Seventh Day
By the seventh day, everything was created and put into shape and order. And G-d rested on the seventh day and He glorified it as a day of rest. Therefore we should work for six days and rest on the Seventh day, Shabbat, which G-d blessed and sanctified for all time to come. By observing the Shabbat day, we show that we believe in G-d as the Creator of the world.


we finally have a yec :o !
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