No, it'd be a pretty empty world.

you could make auto-flagelation if you feel world is empty without suffering

that free will nonsense is bs

you're predisposed to think and act a certain way



i agree you cannot, religion does that to you

This post was edited by duffman316 on Aug 9 2014 06:17pm

Ugh yes they are, unless you're living in a different world. (Which I believe you are in my mind) If there is good, there has to be evil. [In this world]

You cannot have good without evil.

This post was edited by HighschoolTurd on Aug 9 2014 06:29pm

Suffering for the sake of suffering is just as meaningless.

For a sapient being to embrace hedonism as their reason for being is just sad and vaguely pathetic.

Evil does not require suffering to exist. In a better world, one in which the worst experiences one could have are merely great rather than sublime, evil would be inflicting experiences on people that are below baseline (baseline, of course, being magnificent).



More utter nonsense, but then again you cannot see how a world better than ours could exist so I wouldn't expect you to recognize that our world, all else the same, devoid of suffering, would be strictly better than our world and would lack nothing.

The argument that suffering somehow emboldens the human experience is purely a fallacy, caused by the entrenched belief among the scientifically illiterate that the fact that our brain is wired to cause us grief and to keep us from being happy for anything more than a moment, that this is some sort of metaphysical rule.

the degree of reduced suffering doesn't matter, you could have an identicial world with the only difference being one less child getting molested by a catholic priest and now you have another world that is greater than ours by any metric

I didn't say evil requires suffering to exist. I said you cannot have good WITHOUT evil.

Ok, that's reasonable, but I don't think that at all conflicts with what I'm saying.



Yes, even modestly reduced suffering would make for a superior world, though I will avoid using your unnecessary religious attacks

This post was edited by Voyaging on Aug 9 2014 08:43pm