Quote (Mastersam93 @ 5 Apr 2014 00:47)

I hear this a lot and I'm kind of tired of it.  I don't think pro-life voters want to oppress women, they just don't want abortions happening.  It just so happens that only women get pregnant.  That's like Viagra is sexist because only men take it.

Quote (Gastly @ Apr 4 2014 10:55pm)

how come is it that i do get the feeling that this has to do with some of my earlier comments on this subforum

namely, me stating the fact that human "races" aren't a taxonomically viable concept (especially in anthropology)
and that ski'ing and basketball aren't that much about genes at all

have you started pretending that your arbitrary definitions of humans as distinctive "races" are based on... are now different species altogether? 

Quote (Skinned @ Apr 4 2014 10:48pm)

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Quote (Skinned @ Apr 4 2014 08:41pm)

In capitalist society women have to be able to have a career to have a life and live freely.  If they cannot control their reproduction, they cannot do that.

That is all.  For all you pro-lifers, don't get abortions.  Late term abortions are already regulated heavily by the state and aren't given electively, only therapeutically.  When the egg is just a non-human clump there is only one party involved in an abortion and everybody else should mind their own business.

Quote (bogie160 @ 5 Apr 2014 03:23)

Women are perfectly capable of controlling their reproduction, and no, they don't have to commit murder to do it.

Quote (brmv @ Apr 4 2014 11:30pm)

let me remind you that the state decides what is murder and not the church
and the church's view on when abortion is a sin (and what type of sin) has changed over the centuries
excommunicate abortionists if you want, that is clearly within the church's domain
but stay out of matters of state

let, me relink a cartoon on your conservative friends:

http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20110915.gif

Quote (Voyaging @ 5 Apr 2014 03:31)

Humans decide what is murder based on reason, not the state, and not the Church.

Quote (brmv @ Apr 4 2014 11:35pm)

'murder' is a legal term and as far as i know the law needs authority coming from something like a 'state' to be enforced
you are welcome to use the term 'killing' if you feel so - which is the term used in the bible 

Quote (Voyaging @ 5 Apr 2014 03:35)

You're right of course, "murder" as a legal term is defined by the state.
I'm referring to "murder", though, as the far more important ethical term.