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Dec 16 2009 11:38am
lol at eni haters..

nice guide
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Dec 16 2009 11:51am
enigma is very much needed.. well if you want to do things fast as for shields for pvm I would go with a spirit mon really.. getting 32%+ from it to reach fcr bp

if max block then I go with ss.. nice guide though
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Dec 16 2009 12:28pm
Quote (haloneya @ 16 Dec 2009 18:51)
enigma is very much needed

Care to explain why? On a zon you're just about as fast with CoH as when you teleport if you don't switch gear/have fcr gear as primary (which is pretty dumb) + you get 65 all resists... Also on a javazon you don't need tele to get into the right position like you do on a hdin as you can spam lf from anywhere.
The str mod on enigma is nice but only really needed if you go with a monarch as your shield of choice. The 45%frw is next to useless if you tele and is pretty nice if you don't, but it still doesn't come close to 65@.

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Why on earth would you ever need 86fhr on a PvFM javazon?
Also 0 pierce in PvM = fail.

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Dec 16 2009 12:43pm
Quote (MateDeVita @ Dec 16 2009 06:28pm)
Care to explain why? On a zon you're just about as fast with CoH as when you teleport if you don't switch gear/have fcr gear as primary (which is pretty dumb) + you get 65 all resists... Also on a javazon you don't need tele to get into the right position like you do on a hdin as you can spam lf from anywhere.
The str mod on enigma is nice but only really needed if you go with a monarch as your shield of choice. The 45%frw is next to useless if you tele and is pretty nice if you don't, but it still doesn't come close to 65@.

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Why on earth would you ever need 86fhr on a PvFM javazon?
Also 0 pierce in PvM = fail.


Eni gives merc control,ability to reach and kill nihlathak in ~20s at start of baal run and telestomping baal!

Coh offers res but this can be gained from charms and boots.
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Dec 16 2009 12:46pm
Quote (hue_two @ 16 Dec 2009 19:43)
Eni gives merc control,ability to reach and kill nihlathak in ~20s at start of baal run and telestomping baal!

Coh offers res but this can be gained from charms and boots.

Alright, that's better. ^_^

But still, you have to sacrifice quite a lot to make up for the lost 65 resists + to get a decent fcr bp...

Also I made my build to solo hell with /players 8, not to make runs. In mf/lvling/whatever runs, enigma may really be the better armor.

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Dec 16 2009 01:05pm
Quote (MateDeVita @ Dec 16 2009 06:28pm)
Care to explain why? On a zon you're just about as fast with CoH as when you teleport if you don't switch gear/have fcr gear as primary (which is pretty dumb) + you get 65 all resists... Also on a javazon you don't need tele to get into the right position like you do on a hdin as you can spam lf from anywhere.
The str mod on enigma is nice but only really needed if you go with a monarch as your shield of choice. The 45%frw is next to useless if you tele and is pretty nice if you don't, but it still doesn't come close to 65@.

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Why on earth would you ever need 86fhr on a PvFM javazon?
Also 0 pierce in PvM = fail.


the fcr on spirit mon should be more then enough.. being able to tele so you dont have to walk around walls.. rivers etc..
str life on enigma is good too and the frw is very good too your not going to tele all the time
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Dec 16 2009 01:07pm
Quote (haloneya @ 16 Dec 2009 20:05)
the fcr on spirit mon should be more then enough.. being able to tele so you dont have to walk around walls.. rivers etc..
str life on enigma is good too and the frw is very good too your not going to tele all the time

Life is something CoH has too. But yeah, otherwise you do have a point there. I might try eni, seeing as I already have mb.
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Quote (JayPee @ Dec 17 2009 12:17am)
Leveling up can help. Changing Lava Gout for skill gloves too.





That would be more PvP orientated. You definitely need Razortail here. And SDancers aren't that useful either.


thanks =D
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Dec 17 2009 05:58pm
Dunno if this been asked before, but why razortail instead of tg ?
Just bcoz of pierce vs str vita dmg light abs ?
Explenation I demand >(

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And ROTFL at author's comment about Phoenix.
IMO at pvm especialy for cs there is no need to have MB especialy with this shield.

This post was edited by Prospero on Dec 17 2009 06:19pm
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Dec 17 2009 06:31pm
JayPee

Why do you suggest getting max block for a pvm javzon? wouldnt a 20/20 monarch be far better. More damage and - % res helps defeat the munes your merc infinity breaks faster
Wouldnt the block +fhr frames+dodge = bad for you ,keeping your zon locked into one spot since your only escape is walking and without walk you block = zero (with coh) in a big group of monsters this can be bad.

Also i find enigma to be the far better choice in armour just because of its mobility. And also the fact that you have to rely on others to do things like tele to baal etc with CoH is annoying.

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