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May 17 2009 11:39pm
Quote (TooNArmY @ Mon, May 18 2009, 04:18pm)
ie - Swords would be smarter to have dex ; whereas daggers/clubs would be more aimed for a str build on say.. a barb?


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May 17 2009 11:44pm
Quote (coolbreeze @ Sun, May 17 2009, 11:28pm)
OK, so we did some catas but we had to run with maze close to completion :cry:

Went from lvl 54-60 and finished with 1.18m damage with my dagger.

Stats are:
195 str
70 dex
15 int
65 vit

Weapon is:
Mystical ultimanium dagger
Level Req: 55
Damage: 474 to 829

+192% Enhanced Effect
+2 Mana Regen
+1% Block

Armor is:
Mystical spiderthread robe
Level Req: 55
Defense: 0 to 22

+55 Strength
+2 Magic Luck
+1% Mind Numb

Charm is:
Rare ice XI
Level Req: 40
Spell Damage: 60 to 72
Mana Cost: 105

+43 Strength
+1 to 3 Life per Kill


Finished with Total Damage of: 184 min, 677 avg, 2146 maximum

Now, the damage I took was less than 81 dmg per attack on 486 hits total wearing a 55 robe with only 70 DEX.

With balanced gear I've never had my avg damage work out to over 580 avg dmg, so........... IMO strength outscores dexterity by about 100 avg damage per hit in my particular case.


What say you ????? :bouncy:

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1133/bigdmgm.png


now unless i missread this you have a total of 140 dex. which would considerable reduce the crit damage you take, plus add the crit dam you make, so this should not be a critical achievement. this is however noticable.

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May 17 2009 11:56pm
Quote (Ughz @ Mon, 18 May 2009, 07:44)
now unless i missread this you have a total of 140 dex. which would considerable reduce the crit damage you take, plus add the crit dam you make, so this should not be a critical achievement. this is however noticable.


You misread.

Imo go try it out with ~ 100-120 dex next time :]
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May 17 2009 11:58pm
Quote (eekzie @ Mon, May 18 2009, 01:56am)
You misread.

Imo go try it out with ~ 100-120 dex next time :]


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May 18 2009 04:14am
195 str 200 str
70 dex 114 dex
15 int
65 vit

870 ish avg

with a 194ee dagger and 16 dagger prof

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16  (55.58%)


Code
Mystical ultimanium dagger
Level Req: 55
Damage: 222 to 388

+194% Enhanced Effect
+1% Mana Syphon
+4 Jubilance


Code
Mythical seamist padded robe
Level Req: 30
Defense: 0 to 25

+14 Strength
+44 Dexterity
+7 Magic Luck
+2 Mana Regen
+3% Critical Flux


Code
Mystical ice XIV
Level Req: 55
Spell Damage: 77 to 92
Mana Cost: 135

+59 Strength
+22 Intelligence
+2 Critical Strike


This post was edited by benell on May 18 2009 04:20am
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May 18 2009 04:17am
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May 18 2009 04:31am
Quote (coolbreeze @ Mon, May 18 2009, 03:28am)
OK, so we did some catas but we had to run with maze close to completion :cry:

Went from lvl 54-60 and finished with 1.18m damage with my dagger.

Stats are:
195 str
70 dex
15 int
65 vit

Weapon is:
Mystical ultimanium dagger
Level Req: 55
Damage: 474 to 829

+192% Enhanced Effect
+2 Mana Regen
+1% Block

Armor is:
Mystical spiderthread robe
Level Req: 55
Defense: 0 to 22

+55 Strength
+2 Magic Luck
+1% Mind Numb

Charm is:
Rare ice XI
Level Req: 40
Spell Damage: 60 to 72
Mana Cost: 105

+43 Strength
+1 to 3 Life per Kill


Finished with Total Damage of: 184 min, 677 avg, 2146 maximum

Now, the damage I took was less than 81 dmg per attack on 486 hits total wearing a 55 robe with only 70 DEX.

With balanced gear I've never had my avg damage work out to over 580 avg dmg, so........... IMO strength outscores dexterity by about 100 avg damage per hit in my particular case.


What say you ????? :bouncy:

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1133/bigdmgm.png


cool
1 year late tho
every one knows that str is nice
u average is low tho 100dex + str > ur current build
+ u were in the back row
so more or less ur statement is null >_<

This post was edited by seabA on May 18 2009 04:32am
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May 18 2009 05:49am
in the maze you need less dex, because mobs are weaker and have less dex (unoless you stumble upon one of the quests or a bunch of evil presences).
if you do the climb in arena im sure ~120dex > your build.
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May 18 2009 07:07am
It is so funny the things people bring up as points in this. I ran tests in no maze before the latest revision and with this build I ranged
500-800 avg damage with 195str, 70 dex depending on the mobs encountered.
450-650 with 140str, 125dex
400-700 with 100str, 165dex
Anyway I attempted to get higher results, the only one which ALWAYS had the best results was higher strength.


The back row has nothing to do with what I'm stating. Back row or front row, I would still do the same damage, not sure what that point you make here is.
Also, I level mostly in the arena most climbs and found I killed faster, had higher MCC with my high STR build.

If you have a high EE weapon, it is most beneficial to have much higher STR than dex ( more in line with your EE, for example I have 192ee dagger so 195str ). Once you reach your EE of weapon in STR, then you may add more to DEX. 60-80 DEX is more than sufficient to avoid heavy damage from mobs even with robes and it doesn't matter whether arena or maze (WELLing is the only danger zone).
I've done over 10 climbs now in the past 90 days with 70 dex and the highest hit I've taken was about 800 (very rare) with most high hits ranging from 400-500 and I have 4000 life.

Anyways, just my 2 cents. Hope this helped anyone interested. :hug:

This post was edited by coolbreeze on May 18 2009 07:09am
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May 18 2009 07:09am
Quote (bubbachunk @ Mon, May 18 2009, 04:41am)
Opinion and sample size not to mention you are not comparing it to anything else. Also full gear would be useful because if you have something like powershot it will greatly improve your max damages.


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