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Let's just agree to disagree. ^^
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LOL... you got school girl hands. Experience my ass. LOL


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Let's just agree to disagree. ^^


:rofl:
Why are people so afraid to admit they're wrong nowadays?
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LOL... you got school girl hands. Experience my ass. LOL


you posted pictures from ww2 you dinosaur...you have no room to talk
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Let's just agree to disagree. ^^


I gave you direct evidence I know how to handle ships - I mean really, boatswain's mates are the boat and ship handlers of the Navy - and you come back with "no man, I just can't believe it" and "I have experience I can't be bothered to tell you about" and you think you're in a position to "let's just agree to disagree?" as if your arguments held weight like mine? Naw.
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I gave you direct evidence I know how to handle ships - I mean really, boatswain's mates are the boat and ship handlers of the Navy - and you come back with "no man, I just can't believe it" and "I have experience I can't be bothered to tell you about" and you think you're in a position to "let's just agree to disagree?" as if your arguments held weight like mine? Naw.




Well then let's agree that you must just have been "touring" a POS ship. :D
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you posted pictures from ww2 you dinosaur...you have no room to talk





Those pics are from ~1978 - 1979. LOL
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Well then let's agree that you must just have been "touring" a POS ship. :D


Let's agree that you were talking out your ass and don't know 2 things about ship handling or engine room operating procedures, and that to the extent that you have "experience," it isn't relevant experience.
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Let's agree that you were talking out your ass and don't know 2 things about ship handling or engine room operating procedures, and that to the extent that you have "experience," it isn't relevant experience.




Well... I still think the explanations offered about the incident are just too pat. I still think the explanations are BS.

As for your experience, you haven't offered anything except a few pics.
Nothing about tonnage, size, etc.

I still don't believe that a cargo ship that size wouldn't have backups. Hell... wouldn't be required by law to have backup generators... etc.

You can argue all you want, but I'll stick with what I think happened. :)



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Dali is propelled by a single low-speed two-stroke crosshead diesel engine coupled to a fixed-pitch propeller. Her main engine, a 9-cylinder MAN-B&W 9S90ME-C9.2[9] unit manufactured by Hyundai Heavy Industries under license, is rated 41,480 kW (55,630 hp) at 82.5 rpm.[2] Her service speed is 22 knots (41 km/h; 25 mph).[5] For maneuvering in ports, Dali has a single 3,000 kW (4,000 hp) bow thruster. Electricity is generated onboard by two 3,840 kW (5,150 hp) and two 4,400 kW (5,900 hp) auxiliary diesel generators.[4]



Seems the Dali has FOUR generators, two of which are backups.
As I said long ago... I don't believe there was a power failure.

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Well... I still think the explanations offered about the incident are just too pat. I still think the explanations are BS.

As for your experience, you haven't offered anything except a few pics.
Nothing about tonnage, size, etc.

I still don't believe that a cargo ship that size wouldn't have backups. Hell... wouldn't be required by law to have backup generators... etc.

You can argue all you want, but I'll stick with what I think happened. :)






Seems the Dali has FOUR generators, two of which are backups.
As I said long ago... I don't believe there was a power failure.


backups literally never fail? on the day it happened i read where someone theorized the captain had the boat in full reverse after the first failure/restart in a panic. then once the backups fired on it was the same thing, and they over amp'd immediately because shocker shocker starting an engine with the throttle on full is a good way to have it over amp. boat motors id imagine generally start on idle, and are slowly throttled up. but after the drift began if they were to avoid the collision they tried to start up and immediately pull away from the column.
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backups literally never fail? on the day it happened i read where someone theorized the captain had the boat in full reverse after the first failure/restart in a panic. then once the backups fired on it was the same thing, and they over amp'd immediately because shocker shocker starting an engine with the throttle on full is a good way to have it over amp. boat motors id imagine generally start on idle, and are slowly throttled up. but after the drift began if they were to avoid the collision they tried to start up and immediately pull away from the column.





Still seems a bit fishy to me. As I said... way too convenient of an excuse.
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