Quote (jalapenos @ Mar 1 2023 11:33am)
Sigh. I ought not to be surprised that there is anti-lgbtq2+ rhetoric in this or on any forum (online and in real life).
I cannot blame the mods for not addressing anti-lgbtq2+ rhetoric when it arises as everyone, including me, cannot change the minds of those who either choose to hate or who lack the capacity to know when they are being harmful. Sigh.
well to be fair, there was no hate whatsoever, we just concluded its a mental illness
and it is really, even according to the WHO definition: "Health is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity"
a homosexual person wont have the physical well being because he/she is physically subpar compared to the normal when it comes to fertility, he/she will have lower chance of having children due to 1) less desire to have sex with the opposite sex and 2) lower functionality in it simply because in order for be effective at creating offspring, you need to enjoy it; for men its obvious why but even for women there is a correlation between actually enjoying sex and getting pregnant. and yeah im aware that the condition has a "cure" that avoids the problem (artificial insemination), but then again, so does the plague
my argument was that even though its an illness, a person shouldnt hate him/herself for that at all as no one is perfectly healthy, we all have some problems
also there shouldnt be any hate, i dont hate a homosexual same as i dont hate a schizophrenic
edit: note that there are some things that are really good on paper, but maladaptive in reality (meaning its selected against and can technically be considered an illness). intelligence for example is maladaptive and has been so for more than 100 years (after vaccines and antibiotics and other means of removal of darwinian conditions). extreme intelligence has always been maladaptive. although intelligence isnt maladaptive on the group level (a crazy genius like tesla sacrifices his genes but the group profits massively so most of his genes survive)
and again, there is a theory that argues that homosexuality is (or at least has been at some point) not maladaptive on the group level (so called gay uncle theory). i dont intuitively agree with it, but its a solid theory without any major flaws and might as well be true
This post was edited by Snyft2 on Mar 1 2023 06:20am