This subforum has been more political than philosophical over the past several yeas, but I know there's some wicked smart and well-read people in our regulars. So:

Assisted suicide conversations/debate have largely surrounded the utility of such practices in the event of terminal illness of the body; however, I contend that from a existential lens (specifically, Albert Camus' work) that suicide is indeed the one true philosophical question within a meaningless universe/existence and that humanity should operate assisted suicide as a standard practice irrespective of whether one has a terminal illness or not (besides, the fact that we are all mortal means that existence itself is a terminal condition). People should not be forced to feel like they need to die in horrifically painful and lonely ways, and that should someone independently decide that they no longer wish to be conscious in a meaningless world, then they exercise one of the greatest arguments for free will: Nobody, and no entity, can force you to experience conscious existence. It should, of course, operate under regulation; however, laws against suicide/assisted suicide are deeply absurd in their reluctance to acknowledge that suicide/assisted suicide is neither moral nor immoral, but amoral.

Thoughts, contentions, ridicule? What say you, PaRD?

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Jan 29 2023 01:47am

It's a thing in Belgium since decades, only religious sick in da head that are also against abortion would be against that

If you can't, just take a booster and that will do it too

This post was edited by Melatonina on Jan 29 2023 01:59am

Agreed. with the view that it should be under EVERYONE's free will. This is where religion can go fuck off(again) about the ability or their moral objection for people choose this for themselves.

They told me legalizing gay marriage wouldn't lead to children having their genitals chopped off. I believed them.
Now they tell me legalized assisted suicide won't lead to mandated suicide. I don't believe them anymore.

I find it awesome to have seen people be in agreement already. Perhaps this is a position not as rare as I once thought it to be.



"Mandated suicide", whatever this may mean, is at ethical odds with the philosophical underpinnings of pro-assisted suicide perspectives. You'd be looking at something under the philosophical category of authoritarianism, whereas this concept is positioned in the philosophical category of existential humanism.

much would depend what value you put on life. if your just some kinda accident why would anything matter?
why waste time with things like assisted suicide?
Atheist Governments of the 20th Century: The Death Toll of Godless Goodness
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/03/atheist-governments-of-the-20th-century-the-death-toll-of-godless-goodness/

Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered

Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered

Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered

Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered

Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered

Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered

Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered

Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered

Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jan 29 2023 02:55am

I think that's precisely the question that is so understandable for us to comprehend asking.

consider your question is jumping ahead of a more important question?

What question do you think is more important?

1.are we created? 2.or are we an accident?
1.is there a higher power? 2. or is it all nothing?

the first one is infinite the second one is finite