Quote (Soppamies @ Jan 20 2023 10:39am)

Go for 2h weapon, Eth Tomb / Ribckracer / Eth BoTD War Pike or Thunder Maul.

Blocking things just slow you down and you are doing something else than killing, you get it ?

Quote (gel87 @ Dec 9 2019 06:11pm)

Gel87's guide's to the FC/S bear

fun chars are usually not the strongest, but some of them turns out quite epic if you invest into them. the reason mainstream chars usually are mainstream is due to the fact that regular gear fits them very nice, meanwhile fun chars would be more dependent on rarer equipment to function properly. they often need to have close to perfect stats in every slot to reach the correct combination of dmg/ar/resists/Dr%/abs/breakpoints and speed.

fireclaw/shockwave werebear:
pros:
good dmg vs none absers
fun as hell
decent ar
good vs casters

negative:
crappy fhr breaks
loads of delays
low dmg vs absers/easy to abs
hard vs: bowa, baba, palas.

eq:
- main wep: war scyte 6 sox (5 shaels, 1 15ias/15@ or 15ias/100ar) +4 rangeadder wep with 6,25 attacks pr sec.
- secondary weps: 30/-30 pb and 20/-20 jmod or sop.
- Armor: EoD scarab or AP (you NEED its fhr and red)
- boots: shadows (25dex best, you want all ar u can get)
- Belt: Bug belt / arach for 100fcr setup
- ring 1: 10fcr/17+str/life or dex/10@/1xx ar
- ring 2: simular as ring 1/raven/wisp/dwarf/bk/soj/rare 08 stack
- gloves: magefists
- ammu: 2dudu/20fcr/20@/str or dex or life
- helm: 2dudu/20fcr/2soc/nice adds like: ar/frw/visio/res/str/dex/life 'chamBer' or 'chamShael'

inventory:
20/20/25 Torch (the 25% is very nice add on this, not just stylish)
20/20 annie
9 x shaper 45
mix of 20/5@ and 36ar/20lifers (as much ar as possible)

you should try to get around 18k ar+ ar. stat dex if neccesary.

stashed eq:
cube: cta, demon limb, soj, bk, mara
infernostrides upped for str bug
sop
15ed/203ar/110ias pb
stormshield(Lo) maby...
3resi boots with fhr and frw
1 fhr shape sk
1 5fhr/5@ sc
jalals
epic 2 sox pelt who adds armageddon and maby visio.
some 20/5@
maby some more 36/20 scs
secondary diadems with different soc, maby facetet. maby even some ele 45sks
fade armor xD

other info:
you need enought str to carry eq and not stat much so u can str bug. best possible str source is ammu as this can add 30. str comes from either: ammu, ring, diadem, however ammu is most flexible. base str is 15, u get another 40 from torch annie and 15 from bug belt = 70, so you need 25 str from gear to carry eod scarab.
but eod does not add unlimited str, a level 99 char gets 74 str from eod, 95 + 74 = 159. you need 167 to carry shadows... so in most cases you would need 2 items with str adds(between ring/ammu/diadem)

realms without bug belt:
use shit like coa/dungo or fuck dr or use only 16 from BerBer helm. my first asgard version did not use any bugged items and was arach build with BerBer helm and i actually even killed a few smiters with it xD

armageddon:
its a nice add if it comes from pelt, but it cost to many skills to skill it from urself. it also just last 50 seconds and ur unable to shapechange for like 15-20 seconds after using it.

skilling:
20fc
20fissure
20volcano
20 moulten bulder
1 HoW and oak
1 grizzly
1 cyclone
rest fissure.

how does it work:
well, you teleport on enemies, shapechange and shockwave them once then attack with 16-17k fireclaw dmg with 6,25 attacks pr sec. which means fast fpk chars trying to wsg away will get hit like 8-13 times before they are out of range. which means even 90fr sop builds usually dies.
vs smiters and hammers u utulize the +4 rangeadder different, teleport close, shockwave and starts attacking where they cannot reach you. smite is uninteruptible, but since they are not in range that does not matter now. you still need to be extreamly lucky with hits for this to work. zoo will protect you some and you can often try 2-3 before one of you are dead.
im usually only play 2 handed, a storm/facet jmod can be decent vs babas, but got to crap range for every thing else.
ur backup ranged skills are a 3k fissure/1,8k ish volcano and some grizzly strikes with - 50 enemy res. fissure and moulten can be used as well, but is not very strong, still fun xD theese skills only deal relevant dmg to enemies not wearing stack of any sort or have low dr(grizzly/volcano). they will also give delay to ur shapechange skill... and a little to teleport. so i dont use them much. can be decent with fissure vs joders/bowas/ghosts.

Quote (gel87 @ Jul 25 2020 11:44pm)

I would like to add some info on the fireclaw/shockwave bear build now that i have played it some more on eu. Mine is only level 92 so stats are far from good and its an semi-tryhard build item wise xD

First:
Strenght is an really hard stat to find.
Bug belt 68fcr build is decent, but the tele-shape-shockwave-fireclaw combi gets slowed down and that enemy stuns u, or gets away is higher. This is why strengt can be hard to achieve when wielding arach.

Firestorm should be skilled before moulten boulders as moulten dont give syntenergies to fissure, which is our main skill vs smiter/barb/good zons and maby hammerdin and even assa since those can be hard to hit with fireclaw.

So bear breakpoints:
Fhr breaks:
37
54
86

Fbr breaks:
16
27
40
65

Fcr breaks:
40
63
99

Human breakpoints:
Fhr:
42
63
99

Fcr:
30
46
68
99

Fbr:
20
32
52

Based on this i recommend this eq now:
Helm as fireclaw setup.
2druid, 20fcr, 30frw, as high ar mod as possible(visio or 100+ base), life or str or dex or Even @, 2 soc. And i recommend cham shael to hit the 86fhr breakpoint.

Rings:
If level 99 with eni giving 74str we got this with arach:
15base + 40 inventory + 74 eni = 120 str(with eni, 55 without).
We need 40 str to carry eni, but then we miss 9 str for shadows.

So if we stat 9 str, that means 15 + 40 + 40 + 9 = 103(can carry eni)
So i went for EoD AP and started those for now.

This means that best possible rings are 10fcr/20str/10@/1xx ar/high life or dex * 2, u can have mana adds or single res adds on theese as well. The other choise is to have str in ammu and ring with a total of 48 on both, and chose secondary ring to be without str(10fcr/dex/ar/life/@/maby add). Str in ammu gives more flexibility if u want wisp/raven/soj/carrions(ctc twister stun) /dwarf. So i recommend str in ammu.

The max str a level 99 can stat for fb is:
Scarab: 95-(74 + 15 + 1)= 5
Ap : 103 - (74 + 15 + 1) = 13
Formula: ENI REQ - ([clvl*0,75] - base str - 1)
[] = round down
* remember ur total need to be 169

Resists are important:
Eod 15
Torch 20
Annie 20
Ammu 20
Ring 10
Ring 10
Anya 30
= 125

5 * 10 = 175 with 10 x 5@ scs...

100ar/15ias vs 15@/15ias
3 scs can give 36 * 3 = 108 ar.
Meanwhile 15@ in wep instead means less @ on switch.

Im using 1 of each jool in my weps. Which means i can use a sop, but sop + pb is crap range, however it might come handy vs assa/fb and teams like assa dudu etc in combi with bug belt. However this build can be done without bb. However vs fb giant tresher + hots is prefered due to range, meanwhile if there also is an assa there bb + sop + pb + dwarf is a better combi.

Eq i recommend:

Weps:
* Pb 15ed/15@/103ar/110ias
* War schyte(go gt if u reach 180str). Same sox as pb.
* Cta scepter
* 30/-30 ba
(all weps looks different by choice!)

Shields:
* Stormshield shael to hit 40bear and 52human Fbr break.
* Sop
* 30/-30 jmod

Belts:
* arach
* bug belts

Amulet:
* 2druid/19fcr/28+str/20@

Gloves:
* Magefists

Boots:
* Shadows
* Hots

Armor:
* EoD Scarab or Ap

Helms:
* 2druid/20fcr/30frw/life/good ar/2soc
* 2druid or 3 ele/2-3fissure/1-3armageddon/2soc(nice adds are: fireclaw/visio/fhr/life/single res or whatever) 2 x facets. A nice subtitude would be facet raven Lore, men but then no armageddon, this is mainly for duels where fireclaw seems hopeless.

Rings:
* 10fcr/18+str/1xx ar/10@/dex or life/adds
* 10fcr/dex/1xx ar/10@/life/adds
* wisp
* soj
* raven
* dwarf

Precast:
*Demon limb

Inventory:
8 x shape 4x
1 x shape 12fhr
1 x 5fhr/5@
9 x 20/5@

The remaining stash space is used for:
36/20 and ele sks life. (u need 4 free spots when 2 handed wep is in stash to be able to ench and u can only ench while 2 hander is in stash.

As you can see we have a elemental based eq, we chose an armageddon pelt with fissure and dudu/ele skills with 2 sockets to add armageddon. The delay towards the shapechange skill which armageddon has is not very relevant here as this eq is mainly used for duels where fireclaw can be hard. Having a few ele sks here can make ur elemental dmg on fissure armageddon somewhat respektable, and volcano cant compare in dmg so we max firestorm first for 50second armageddon and since moulten boulder dont add syntenergies to fissure. This eq will give -60 enemy fire res/+60fire skill dmg on switch. Meanwhile ravenlore would be -75/+55 but without armageddon.

How we hit breakpoints:
Fhr:
*99(human) = we only hit this human breakpoint when wielding sop.
* 86 (bear) = Cham in diadem(20), eod(20), shadows(30), skiller(12), sc(5) = 87
* 54 (bear) = eod + shadows + 5/5 sc, only relevant on pelt setup
* 40 (human) = always

Fbr:
* Facet jmod side (only hits the 16bear/20 human breaks, however jmod is only used in human form usually and when wsging with bear which means ur at 25% chance and break the animation anyway.
* sop = crap Fbr, if u block with this wsg...
* storm shael = 54fhr break on bear and 52on human reached, helps a lot vs ama/barb and many other and bear got shit breakpoints so i found this to be best soc.

Fcr:
*99 none sop = magefist(20) + arach(20) + 2 fcr rings(20) + ammu(20) + diadem(20).
* 99fcr sop, same except: (diadem + bb + 1fcr ring) or (pelt + arach + 1 fcr ring) just know u will have 64 or 65 on switch which means we miss the 68 break human form, adding 1 fcr ring can fix this, men but super fcr on that side is not always needed due to delayed skills.
* 63bear/68 human: when we want bug belt instead of arach, or pelt instead of bb.
* pure tank setup(storm/jmod + bb + pelt + raven for cnbf is only 50fcr...)

If ur enemy outstack ur negative fire res and is of the type barb/pala with sop or higher res ur looking at an extreamly hard duel, men nearly impossible. U can try to armageddon + xxx fissure hits defensive style or stright out tank with fireclaw on an as tanky setup u can get.

Quote (gel87 @ Jul 30 2020 01:44pm)

Setups for fireclaw'er:
Based on level 99.
All setups with this gear should have around 19-21k ar with oak.

Statting(not showing base 15-20-25-20) :
1 str
152 dex
352 vita
0 ene

75% block stormshield
69% block jmod

Skilling:
20firestorm
16 moulten boulder (less if lower lvl)
1 artic blast
1 cyclone armor
20 fissure
20 volcano
1 werewolf
1 lycan
1 werebear
1 feral rage
20 fireclaw
1 maul
1 shockwave

Standard 100fcr(Vs all that u can kill with fireclaw) :

Wepons Main:
War Schyte 15/3 soc: 15ias/100ar or 15ias/15@ + 5*shael (+4 range adder wep)
or
Phaseblade 15/3 soc: 15ias/100ar + 15ias/15@ + 4*shael -- Stormshield "Shael" (1+ range adder wep with 35% DR)

Wepons Secondary:
Cta + SOP
or
6sox BA(+30/-30 fire) + Jmod(+20/-20)

Gear:
EoD Scarab
Arach
Magefist
Shadow dancers 25dex
Helm: 2druid/20fcr/30frw/visio/60life/2soc 'chamshael'

Jewelery:
(167-15-(0,75*clvl)-inventory str = Needed str in (ring+ammu) for not needing to stat any)
Ammulet: 2druid/19-20fcr/20@/30str
Ring: 10fcr/120ar/20str/15dex/11@/90mana
Ring: 10fcr/120ar/15dex/40life/11@/90mana

Inventory:
8 x Shape 45
1 x Shape 12
1 x 36ar/20life
8 x 20/5@
1 x 5fhr/5@
Torch 20/20/25
20/20 annie

Precast:
Demon limb 5/5

Result:
* 0 or 35% dr.
* +1 or +4 rangeadder
* All resists: 30+(9x5)+40+22+20+15+15 = 177
* Speed: 99fcr / 86fhr / 105frw / 6,25 attacks pr sec / 55fbr
* Zero abs
* Cannot be frozen
* Life human shape none oak: 2711
* Life human shape oak'ed: 4223
* -50 enemy fr on switch(if prebo)
* DMG:
- Fireclaw: 15079-16585 fire dmg (665% bonus ar) Ench with facet add: 160-204 fire dmg and 218% bonus ar.
- Firestorm: 3208-3567(Main side) /// 4812-5351(Facet side). This skill hit for 1,6 seconds so can do dmg * 1,6 from 1 "snake".
- Fissure: 2709-2830 (main side) /// 4062-4245 (facet side)
- Volcano: 549-555 physical and 656-697 fire (main side) /// 549-555 physical and 984-1046 fire dmg (facet side)
- Grizzly: How life: 3563 / Oak life: 6375 / How + Bo life: 4118 / Oak + Bo life: 6930 --- AR oak: 5175 / AR How: 11178 --- Defense 5202 --- Norm dmg oak: 462 / Norm dmg HoW: 568 / Smite dmg oak:576 / Smite dmg How+bo: 696 / 5ctc crit / Max perf crit hit: 1181 -- Resists: 64
- No armageddon at all.


50fcr bug belt + pelt: (When u want 20/55% DR and vs people that are hard to fireclaw down) :
Change: diadem for 2druid/3fissure/3armageddon/3fireclaw/visio/2soc pelt with 1 fire facet.
Change: arach with bug belt.
Change: Change Fcr ring with dex for Raven(block/ar/cnbf) or Soj or Wisp or Dwarf or keep the 10fcr/120ar/15dex/40life/11@
Change: 2 x 45life shape with 2 x ele 45 life.
Change 1 x 12fhr shape with 1 x ele 12fhr.
Change if space in stash: 2 x 20/5@ with 2 x 36ar/20 life

Result:
* DR: 20 or 55%
* +1 or +4 rangeadder
* Res 177
* Speed: 68fcr / 86fhr / 75frw / 6,25 attacks pr sec / 55fbr
* Possible: ABS
* Cannot be frozen
* Life human shape none oak: 2711
* Life human shape oak'ed: 4223
* -55 enemy fr on switch(if prebo) and -5 enemy res main side.
* DMG: (not including soj atm)
- Fireclaw: 15833-17415 fire dmg (665% bonus ar) Ench with facet add: 160-204 fire dmg and 218% bonus ar.
- Firestorm: 4088-4533(Main side) /// 6035-6692(Facet side). This skill hit for 1,6 seconds so can do dmg * 1,6 from 1 "snake".
- Fissure: 3648-3812 (main side) /// 5385-5627 (facet side)
- Volcano: 637-642 physical and 807-871 fire (main side) /// 637-642 physical and 1191-1286 fire dmg (facet side)
- Grizzly: How life: 3563 / Oak life: 6375 / How + Bo life: 4118 / Oak + Bo life: 6930 --- AR oak: 5175 / AR How: 11178 --- Defense 5202 --- Norm dmg oak: 462 / Norm dmg HoW: 568 / Smite dmg oak:576 / Smite dmg How+bo: 696 / 5ctc crit / Max perf crit hit: 1181 -- Resists: 64
- Armageddon: Physical 104-127 // 3388-4121 fire and 1436-1479 burn (main side) /// 5001-6084 fire and 2120-2184 burn (facet side)

U can also do this setup with 68fcr break and arach instead of bug belt. (use more 20/5@ then)

68fcr Main side SOP + BB + Pelt :
Fireclaw rises to 16950-18680 and u also gain the 10max fire/5max light/and the faster breakpoints in fcr/fhr.


If you want armageddon hardskilled.
Fireclaw dmg: Diadem setup: 14330-15762
Fireclaw ravenlore'cham' + 3 ele sks setup: 12310-13472 (605% ar)
Fissure dmg ravenlore'cham' + 3 ele sks setup(switch side: 5019-5246 (-70 enemy fr))
Armageddon dmg ravenlore'cham' + 3ele sks setup(switch side: 104-127 physical / 5433-5514 fire and 1921-1979 burn dmg (-70 enemy fr))

Quote (gel87 @ Jul 24 2021 12:23am)

lol xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDtBaYkYlY8

Quote (gel87 @ Jul 25 2021 01:22am)

Well since i have so little on the fireclaw druid i played it some today to make some few gameplay.
Its definitiv my weakest char lol xD

It kinda uses leftovers from my other chars, and the build itself aint very strong^^
I also socet my 2 hander wrong. cause on asgard i used bug belt, and those 10ias from bug belt made it 4frames on such wep with 110ias, but i guess since arach build i would need 5 shael + ias jool for breakpoint^^

But i think, if i did it as a high budget 68fcr build it might become decent. Even lower breakpoint once in a while, but albility for 99fcr vs nec and sorc.
mages
2/20 ammu
10fcr/adds
diadem 2/20/30/visio/nice add/2soc //// 2dru/3fissure/3fireclaw/x armageddon/visio/1-2soc helm
soj/bk/wisp/raven
bug belt
shadows
robo pb 110ias/103ar/15ed/15@ + Sop /// Storm(shael or Lo or facedt) /// jmod //// 5shael/100ar-15ias soc gt or warscyte


With the pelt i could change 3 shape sks for 3 ele sks.
I would then have additional 6 more skills to fissure, 3 more to volcano. And if SOJ 7/4 more.
The bug belt would also adds more stats, and i would probarly in combi with a better fcr ring reach max block instead of 5x% on same life. Which would give me higher AR as well.

And then lvl 98 or smt instead of 92 and the visio, all in all it would start to maby reach:
18-19k ar, massive more elemental skill dmg, more fireclaw dmg as well etc... Could reach between 17-19k instead of my 16k current dmg^^
And the armageddon from pelt would help a lot vs palas/barb and bowas and all that are hard to fireclaw down.

There are so much delays it would most likely be benefitial to drop down fcr for direct strengt of build.

Anyway here are vids:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvPb5oGlD1U

Quote (gel87 @ Jul 25 2021 01:23am)

Quote (gel87 @ Jul 25 2021 01:24am)

Quote (dmg_the_killer @ Jan 21 2023 09:57am)

Guys I asked a simple question and the answer is an endless list of expensive but less effective builds designed to duel some once upon a time char that existed once in 2003. Thanks

Quote (gel87 @ Jan 21 2023 05:39am)

If u only use the stormshield vs ele druids then NN max block.
If u use it vs bowa/barb/smiters/chargers/zealers then yes max block.

If u use it for pvm, well no i would say. Hardcore, maby.

No idea what build u refer to from 2003?
This was litterally the last char i built in d2lod.

Quote (dmg_the_killer @ Jan 21 2023 06:47pm)

Thanks..and I was being sarcastic. Just seemed like a ln unnecessarily long answer

Quote (Tarisus @ Jan 23 2023 09:49am)

The more you learn, the better. ^Gel87 is a very intelligent guy. Let's leave it at that.

Quote (dmg_the_killer @ Jan 21 2023 12:16am)

fire claw isn't about physical damage and i have the fastest weapon possible for it. obviously i plan to use my shield so you probably autopiloted and were talking about fury wolf :-/