117 lite > 200 lite

at least pre-sunder, cmoon is worth more than the extra frame

Tbh it depends on what your wanting to farm for content.

Fohdin is gosu in chaos, but shit in cows.

With the new terror zones this opens more opportunity for early and mid game.

Javazon with teleport support from other players, imo.

Depends clearing what?

Seals zerker>
Light sorc and hdin are about on par for general mobs light sorc is faster due to tele but sometimes immunes take a bit longer, hdin is good all rounder almost nothing he can't do.

For pure speed Java zon is best for cows or pits or melting bosses but lacks mobility of teleport. And upkeep of jav repairs/mana is high

This post was edited by addone on Sep 25 2022 09:29pm

Players 1? Hard to beat light sorc, she has the fastest tele. Poison necro or trap assa are also very good as corpse explosion deletes everything. Ofc java and hammer are also god tier.

Light sorc is super dank in p8, why talk about p1

Because if OP only plays in players 1 then there several characters that are fast.

If only p1 won’t auradin be faster?

200 is best

All depends on playstyle randoms don't use static
Real players use static after that all is 1hit just with 25k+ and infy
117 is way too slow
I clear chaos and I'm back for throne clearing before w1 if no light Immune
Seis can slow me till w2 max if it's with light Immune spawn
U never can do that with 117

This post was edited by al1as on Sep 26 2022 04:13am

lawl
you giving up too much damage for no reason
literally all 200fcr does is slow you down when killing baal

This post was edited by camopk on Sep 26 2022 05:47am