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Jun 25 2022 06:37am
The main perk of a item find zerker is the ability to play in P1 monster difficulty and still have full game drops. When item find is successful it drops at P7 regardless of difficulty. So you can tele to super packs, howl the minions, kill the unique in a couple hits, hork him, then move on. You're not hitting as many supers per hour if you're follow horking chaos vs speeding thru your own P1 game in pits for example.
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Jun 25 2022 06:50am
Quote (Jim2727 @ 25 Jun 2022 14:37)
The main perk of a item find zerker is the ability to play in P1 monster difficulty and still have full game drops. When item find is successful it drops at P7 regardless of difficulty. So you can tele to super packs, howl the minions, kill the unique in a couple hits, hork him, then move on. You're not hitting as many supers per hour if you're follow horking chaos vs speeding thru your own P1 game in pits for example.


I did plenty of Pits, Arcane, and Worldstone Keeps, to a count of +200 each over the non-ladder and now ladder. I had many runs where I didn't get a single unique or set. That was one of the reasons for my surprise and why I finally decided to post this thread.

But the information coming in is good to know!



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Jun 25 2022 06:51am
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Jun 25 2022 06:56am
Quote (RaBBit3x @ 25 Jun 2022 14:51)
1167%


Nice! You seeing any value from that on Boss kills? I get all blues consistently on Baal and Diablo above 700%. I mean 10/10 games in a row (with a sprinkle of yellow - but nothing unique or green), because after that I usually give up on MF.

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Jun 25 2022 09:43am
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Greetings all!

I am looking for advice from the most successful (highest quantity of green and gold in the shortest amount of time) item finders.

I have been struggling to understand why my item find berzerker barb isn't discovering much in the way of uniques, sets, or even mid-tier rares.

I was running him with > 500% MF, sometimes going above 700%. I had no trouble killing stuff, however, I wasn't getting anything in the way of drops that was desirable. This includes not even getting low level uniques like Venom Ward or basic stuff from act 1 normal.

I usually run in a large group of 3 or 5 people and I will item find CS and last hit Diablo and Baal every time. However, nothing but blues and maybe 1 yellow. We genuinely didn't understand.

As an experiment, I dropped the MF to 397%. Suddenly I saw far more uniques and sets. Basic to be sure, but the colours were there.

Does anyone know why this is the case? When does MF% no longer add to MF? Is 399% the cap for finding anything unique or set?

I understand the concept of diminishing returns: (pure example: when 100MF increases drop chance by X, 200MF increases drop chance by X*2 and 300MF increases drop by X*2.5). However, I see no reason why it should be 300-400% = X drops, whereas 400% or above = 0 drops. The former is diminishing returns, the later is no return on investment, period.

I hope to learn more from you all!

Thank you!


The MF question is basic maths as people have explained already. With MFSerkers, you need a very high level of MF to get reward as where you will be going to do your runs will have a low Unique drop chance as it is. It is about maximising your chances. For a very basic example, a sorc clearing the Pits needs lower mf and more kill speed. A pitserker handles it completely differently and needs higher mf as it it is trying to jump around killing the packs. This is a very long subject which I don't have the energy to type about right now. All I suggest, is do some searching on this forum, googling, and youtube research and you will find it out.
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Jun 25 2022 11:26am
Quote (InigoSantiu @ 25 Jun 2022 07:56)
Nice! You seeing any value from that on Boss kills? I get all blues consistently on Baal and Diablo above 700%. I mean 10/10 games in a row (with a sprinkle of yellow - but nothing unique or green), because after that I usually give up on MF.


this sample size is WAY too small to matter

the correct answer is - the most you can have without sacrificing kill speed
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Jun 25 2022 12:10pm
I keep it around 250ish, lack of white bases annoys me... found blue eth 15ed SA... blue part was self repair...
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Jun 25 2022 12:28pm
Quote (InigoSantiu @ Jun 25 2022 04:03am)
I have been struggling to understand why my item find berzerker barb isn't discovering much in the way of uniques, sets, or even mid-tier rares.


rng is rng
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--2nd post and big graph from other guy also answer your other questions

This post was edited by dumyguy on Jun 25 2022 12:29pm
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