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Nov 12 2021 04:52am
Gface vs Andy vs Giant Skull with Faith GMB what helm to pick for PVM?

Bowzone gear;
Faith GMB lvl 15 fana
Highlords amu
LoH
War
raven
dual leech ring

Aiming to get the 92% ias framebreak for bowzone

Option 1
Gface + 15 ias / ed jewel
Pluspoints; FHR framebreak, CB, DS
Downside; switch razortail for nosf belt
Will give me 65% ias from gear + roughly 33% ias from fana so 98% ias

Option 2
Andy + 15 ias / ed jewel
Pluspoints; LL (not super needed) and able to wear atma's
Will give me 65% ias from gear + roughly 33% ias from fana so 98% ias

Option 3
Giant Skull + 2x 15 ias / ed jewel
Pluspoints; KB and some CB but extra ED via jewel

70% ias from gear plus 33% ias from fana so 103% ias

I'm mainly in doubt between Gface and Giant Skull. I think the Gface FHR, CB and DS + highlords are insane as I'll have massive crit damage around 90%+ instead of 70%. However losing razortail might be bad as I'll lose around 30% pierce which will be 70% max at that point (I kill with 1-2 shots anyway). Giant skull is nice for the KB (not super necessary as I already kill fast) but gives 2x >35%+ ed jewels.

What do you guys think?
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Nov 12 2021 04:59am
cb is only half effective on missle attacks

and deadly strike doesnt ad to amazon passive.

its more like when u have 70 crit due to passive the 15% ds is only 30% effective ds. giving u only 5% ds instead of 15.

so i wont consider gface at all.

thats salso why most ppl use wt instead of gore rider

This post was edited by Jan_at_home on Nov 12 2021 05:01am
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Quote (Jan_at_home @ Nov 12 2021 11:59am)
cb is only half effective on missle attacks

and deadly strike doesnt ad to amazon passive.

its more like when u have 70 crit due to passive the 15% ds is only 30% effective ds. giving u only 5% ds instead of 15.

so i wont consider gface at all.


But together with highlords ± 35% DS it will give me ±15% DS + 70% crit is 85% which is kinda sick imo?

And the CB 35/2 = 17,5% should be good for something right?

This post was edited by Kunstenaar on Nov 12 2021 05:03am
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Quote (Kunstenaar @ 12 Nov 2021 12:01)
But together with highlords ± 35% DS it will give me ±15% DS + 70% crit is 85% which is kinda sick imo?

And the CB 35/2 = 17,5% should be good for something right?


the dmg of cb is half effective, not the chance.

hm

when u already have 70% chance to double dmg its like:

for example u deal 3k dmg thats avarage * 1,7 = 5100 dmg
with 85% its 5550 dmg -> 8% more dmg. (sry i wrote 1% first lol)

i think its better to increase the the base dmg to get more value out of ur 70%


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Quote (Kunstenaar @ 12 Nov 2021 12:01)
And the CB 35/2 = 17,5% should be good for something right?


Yep, killing baal. It sucks without crushing blow.
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Quote (Kunstenaar @ 12 Nov 2021 11:52)
Gface vs Andy vs Giant Skull with Faith GMB what helm to pick for PVM?

Bowzone gear;
Faith GMB lvl 15 fana
Highlords amu
LoH
War
raven
dual leech ring

Aiming to get the 92% ias framebreak for bowzone

Option 1
Gface + 15 ias / ed jewel
Pluspoints; FHR framebreak, CB, DS
Downside; switch razortail for nosf belt
Will give me 65% ias from gear + roughly 33% ias from fana so 98% ias

Option 2
Andy + 15 ias / ed jewel
Pluspoints; LL (not super needed) and able to wear atma's
Will give me 65% ias from gear + roughly 33% ias from fana so 98% ias

Option 3
Giant Skull + 2x 15 ias / ed jewel
Pluspoints; KB and some CB but extra ED via jewel

70% ias from gear plus 33% ias from fana so 103% ias

I'm mainly in doubt between Gface and Giant Skull. I think the Gface FHR, CB and DS + highlords are insane as I'll have massive crit damage around 90%+ instead of 70%. However losing razortail might be bad as I'll lose around 30% pierce which will be 70% max at that point (I kill with 1-2 shots anyway). Giant skull is nice for the KB (not super necessary as I already kill fast) but gives 2x >35%+ ed jewels.

What do you guys think?


Also, u need 92% ias without fana to hit the 92% ias bp else u can go with 46 ias in gear.
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Nov 12 2021 05:40am
Always use razortail. You just cant justify the loss of 100% Pierce on pvm ranged chars.

Also on a physical dmg bowa atmas amulet is amazing with strafe. With Faith you pretty much need to drop forti for ias/Ed armor and thats not really ideal either.

Wf+Faith merc would be better so you can keep forti, razortail and atmas.

35 from wf, 20 gloves, 45 Helm (mavinas with ias jewel does the Job) = 7 fpa with wf+Faith merc


Frostmaiden > phys dmg bowa in pvm tho B)
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Quote (Jan_at_home @ 12 Nov 2021 13:24)
Also, u need 92% ias without fana to hit the 92% ias bp else u can go with 46 ias in gear.


What? :D without fana there is no 92% ias bp with gmb. Closest are 89 for 9 fpa and 147 for 8 fpa.

With level 15 fana gmb and Hydra bow need 46 ias for 8 fpa and 92 ias for 7 fpa.

https://d2.lc/IAS/?char=0&charform=0&waffe=118&barbschwert=-1&infoWaffe1=bow+%5B10%5D&wIAS1=0&primaerwaffe=on&zweitwaffe=0&infoWaffe2=&wIAS2=0&IAS=0&skill=0&fana=33&frenzy=0&wolf=0&tempo=0&holyfrost=0&AnzFPA=11+frames+per+attack&AnzMax=&AnzFre=2.27+attacks+per+second
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Nov 12 2021 05:46am
Quote (cantero @ Nov 12 2021 12:15pm)
Yep, killing baal. It sucks without crushing blow.


Plus using java on the switch so also need the ias from Highlords for example.

Next to that I'm jabbing baal/diablo to dead :D

Quote (Jan_at_home @ Nov 12 2021 12:24pm)
Also, u need 92% ias without fana to hit the 92% ias bp else u can go with 46 ias in gear.


You sure? I thought it was the other way around? Mmm but might be wrong.

Plus +8% raw damage isn't bad but guess using Giant Skull with 2x ED jewel is then better?

Quote (TheBe @ Nov 12 2021 12:40pm)
Always use razortail. You just cant justify the loss of 100% Pierce on pvm ranged chars.

Also on a physical dmg bowa atmas amulet is amazing with strafe. With Faith you pretty much need to drop forti for ias/Ed armor and thats not really ideal either.

Wf+Faith merc would be better so you can keep forti, razortail and atmas.

35 from wf, 20 gloves, 45 Helm (mavinas with ias jewel does the Job) = 7 fpa with wf+Faith merc


Frostmaiden > phys dmg bowa in pvm tho B)


Pride + might a2 merc > fana merc imo :-D


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Nov 12 2021 05:49am
Quote (Jan_at_home @ Nov 12 2021 12:24pm)
Also, u need 92% ias without fana to hit the 92% ias bp else u can go with 46 ias in gear.


This ^

Fana doesn't give IAS it gives SIAS, is different, you need 95IAS, so you need to use HL + LoH + Nosferatu + 45IAS helm, so none of those 3, is either mavina's with 15IAS jewel for cheap or a good jeweled tiara con a secondary mod and 3IAS jewels (15 max 15IAS usually add more damage than 40ED/15IAS for faith in hand)

Or instead of forty you need to use an IAS armor and they you can have razortail and can choose another helm.
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