Out of curiosity, when I look at "likely coalitions," I see that Black-Red-Green is much more likely than Black-Red-Yellow. Why is that? I'm under the impression that Yellow and Red aren't that different.

neither of those coalitions is even remotely likely. wherever you got that information from, you should consider dropping it as a source for foreign politics. should SPD and CDU have to form the government yet again, there is no reason for them to take either FDP or Grüne on board. they'd have enough votes and plenty of concessions to make to the other party as is.

the thing is, a coalition between the two major parties CDU and SPD has been in charge since 2013, since neither had the votes to form a one party government or at least a more "traditional" coalition (CDU-FDP or SPD-Grüne).
prior to the elections, both parties vowed to do everything in their power to prevent a continuation of that grand coalition, which historically stands for inefficient governing, leaving both major centrist blocks unhappy - in addition to all the opposition party voters.

so if you're a betting man, the most likely scenarios are SPD-Grüne-FDP and CDU-Grüne-FDP (in that order). a continuation of the grand coalition between SPD and CDU is the third most likely outcome, but again, basically no one really wants that.

seeing as the SPD won the most seats, it's officially on them to find a coalition and form a government. their biggest stuggle will be to find common ground with the FDP, which, despite just being the 4th strongest party overall, is in a pretty powerful negotiating position, considering the circumstances.

This post was edited by fender on Sep 26 2021 06:23pm

well, it was worth a try for such an unpredictable election

unlike you i am not afraid to voice an opinion compared to a wannabe smartass who never makes a statement and just attacks people

the alternative for germany was at 10,4% last time i checked so maybe they still drop to 10%

i admit that i am shocked that so many people consider a corrupt and criminal shitfuck with memory loss like scholz from the social dems, who is under parliament investigation, a viable option to lead the country

it doesnt matter anyway, illegal mass migration, selling out to the EU, destroying the economy, inflation and exploding prices, all this will continue under every possible government

but its okay, in a democracy people always get what they deserve

as for the alternative for germany party, they have fumbled the bag despite a state failure that we have never seen before

absolute garbage, they dont deserve shit

but possibly getting that communist scum out of parliament would be a blessing, that can be the only positive here

This post was edited by JohnnyMcCoy on Sep 26 2021 06:40pm

if you genuinely think that laschet is more competent, less corrupt, or "criminal" than scholz, you're even more deluded than i thought.
both candidates are poor though, just like baerbock - that's something we can agree on.

if you were familiar with german election law, you'd know that the "communists" (by which i assume you mean "die linke") will make it to parliament regardless of their final result, even if it's below 5%, as they have gained at least three direct mandates. i'm not surprised you don't know that though.

thats not an opinion, its a fact

laschet is not involved in scandals like cum-ex or wirecard, that alone is enough to be better

i am not bothering looking up direct mandates, but at least you can open the champagne bottles then, congrats on your fellow communist leeches grabbing state money for another 4 years

i'd ask you to specify what scholz did that was "criminal", but i assume i'd get the same reply as when i asked you what exactly general milley should be court martialed for: a big fat dodge - and probably for the same reason: you don't have the faintest clue, you just uncritically regurgitate far right talking points.

btw, since you're apparently completely ignorant regarding german politics as well, here's a nice summary of laschet's various missteps and conflicts of interest / corruption: https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/deutschland/parteien/id_90430104/die-skandale-von-cdu-chef-armin-laschet-das-ende-des-teflon-kandidaten.html

no wonder you didn't know about the direct mandates rule, sorry to spoil your little celebration, lol. at least your stupid neo-nazi party made it into parliament as well - too bad for you that no one wants to talk, let alone work together with you fascist buddies, huh?

you know exactly what your socialist buddy did, but i will help your memory

https://daserste.ndr.de/panorama/archiv/2020/Hamburg-verzichtete-auf-47-Millionen-von-Warburg-Bank,cumex204.html

a bank owed the state 47 million, after meeting guys from the bank and a little donation scholz looked the other way and the amount was never paid

not to mention that he was aware of the wirecard multi billion € scam and is still under investigation

but i guess thats okay, it wasnt a republican in the states

your ad hominems are just retarded at this point and pretty boring

another 0/3, your ignorance is astounding. scholz is neither a socialist (as your own link clearly proves) nor my buddy. the spd didn't get my vote, and i DO think he's a corrupt little prick - all i'm saying is that your claim about him being a "criminal" is bullshit, and that laschet is not better by any stretch of the imagination. again, refer to the link in my last post.

it's amazing how bent out of shape you get when someone debunks your bullshit, especially when it reveals how fundamentally clueless and biased you are, lol. it's clear you're mad that the neo-nazis got a bad result, but allowing that emotion to dominate you like that is really fucking pathetic...

Seems this SPD+"Liberal-Democrats"+Green is the only way. The extra % makes a difference vs CDU_CSU+LD+Green ?
I think fender is right: This SPD is partially representing the "sloppy left" or "caviar left" which is not a great thing.

On a side note: What "saved" France politics (from 1/ dinosaurs right or 2/ sloppy left) was the emergence of a new massive center-ish party: LREM (Macron's party) which renewed 2/3 of the main chamber.
Sad Germany didn't do it, yet ?

you have never debunked anything in your life, i just sent you proof that scholz actively aided in mass tax evasion and thats not criminal behavior?

sure thing buddy, i will leave it at that, you are debunking yourself if anything

the only mad person here is you, because the insignificant party you are obsessed with just wont go away

i did support them in the past, because it was a great chance for something new, they failed

10% are by no means bad, but clearly nowhere near good enough

the greens with decades of experience and 24/7 propaganda in the media only have 5% more......

i didnt even vote for them this time, they have done nothing to deserve it, bad personnel, still cant get rid of trash like höcke, because they might lose some voters in an eastern german 300 people sinkhole

instead they embraced that crap and drove decent people out, they complained about not getting enough time in the media, when they did it was terrible

i also had the chance to speak personally to the former parliament candidate in my hometown a year ago, he quit after realising that many just look for the quick road to an easy 10k parliament paycheck

nah, that shit is not my thing, game over

so there you go, at least i stand for something and if it doesnt work i move on

whats your deal? you constantly condemn almost everyone, but protect certain groups even if they are corrupt trash and at the same time you dont support them?

you hate everything right of the center, you are clearly not a liberal supporter, you claim to not support the social democrats, you are awfully quiet about the communists except when they somehow still make it into parliament

there is not much left and everything about you shouts green party, but i have never seen you talking about them



macron has also fumbled the bag with how unpopular he is

This post was edited by JohnnyMcCoy on Sep 27 2021 05:50am