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#81
Sep 18 2021 12:13am
Quote (GMD @ Sep 17 2021 10:33am)
I don't know about higher skilled pvp matches yet, i will be sure to voice my concerns once I am into those (it is my main goal). However, I am all in for fixing bugs though and WSG / NHAM are not "skills" but actual bugs . WSG in particular was used as a fighting chance but we shouldn't have to rely on a bug to survive in PvP. It is kind of wrong you know what I am saying?


Because someone titled it a "glitch" 15 years ago doesn't mean its an actual "glitch" thats just what people call it. It's been a feature of Diablo 2 since it's inception. It is coded into the game and can be added/removed. The developers didn't call it Weapon Switch Glitch some random person on West came up with the term a long time ago. That again doesn't make it a glitch, it's a pvp feature.

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#82
Sep 18 2021 01:38am
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That is true. Perhaps a simple solution is to set a cap to the frequency of fhr animations your character can be triggered.
Anyways, we'll see about it, can't expect perfection on first launch.


Such a change would warp PvP balance. It would nerf sins by a huge degree and let people freely teleport out of every stomp and reset without being chained down.
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#83
Sep 18 2021 01:54am
The guys that think they will survive stuns without wsg.
Funny.
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#84
Sep 18 2021 02:54am
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Also, I've been playing Diablo 2 since day 1 release while using d2jsp


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#85
Sep 18 2021 03:03am
Quote (ZoSoD2 @ Sep 17 2021 05:45am)
When you get mindblasted you have whats called "swirlies" over your characters head for 10 seconds and the timer resets each time mindblast is casted on you. When you combine that with 2 hits from a lightning sentry trap and or fireblast it will put your character in perma fhr lock making you unable to move or attack. And that's just assassin spells that's not counting getting hit by other spells with swirlies on your head during team duels which is where WSG plays a vital role in the pvp scene. Swirlies + any other spell causes your character not to be able to move/teleport/attack, you're just dead. With WSG it at least gives you a chance at surviving and continuing to duel.


To be honest I was not to much of a fan of wsg. It is cheap and causes glitches. If you do not know how to wsg, which would be pick up from being friendly with people in PvP games, you duel anyways. If you duel without freeloading mana pots then any pro duel is a fair match.

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Sep 18 2021 03:20am
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To be honest I was not to much of a fan of wsg. It is cheap and causes glitches. If you do not know how to wsg, which would be pick up from being friendly with people in PvP games, you duel anyways. If you duel without freeloading mana pots then any pro duel is a fair match.


You guys are literally talking about pub duel games. That is the lowest form of pvp on diablo 2 and it is not where I'd expect people to know or understand what WSG is
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#87
Sep 18 2021 03:38am
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You guys are literally talking about pub duel games. That is the lowest form of pvp on diablo 2 and it is not where I'd expect people to know or understand what WSG is


Honestly in this topic it does not matter if it is a public or private game. Taking out wsg will make a team have to be better. Same with individual players. Also if you cannot handle PvP in Diablo 2 Resurrected then you'll have Diablo 2 LoD to play on. Business model wise it is sound so it would take a lot to overturn the current features of the game. If it becomes a full–flow issue then they can release a patch.
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#88
Sep 18 2021 04:19am
Quote (Kyhle @ Sep 18 2021 07:38pm)
Honestly in this topic it does not matter if it is a public or private game. Taking out wsg will make a team have to be better. Same with individual players. Also if you cannot handle PvP in Diablo 2 Resurrected then you'll have Diablo 2 LoD to play on. Business model wise it is sound so it would take a lot to overturn the current features of the game. If it becomes a full–flow issue then they can release a patch.


I've heard this so many times yet not once has anyone suggested how people are just meant to "get better"..

You don't realise it but "getting better" means PvP will take on an extremely defensive dynamic, where casters are screens away spamming fball/bspear/bspirit or whatever it may be just to avoid stuns.

This makes for extremely boring PvP as the ability to be aggressive is one of the strongest components to D2 PvP IMHO.

You've also failed to consider what the impact of a failed PvP system will have on the longevity of the game, it's simple to say just go back to D2 but end-game PvP gear gives purpose to the entire PvM model..

That's not to say D2R PvP won't work, we'll have to find out, but your flippant remarks show you haven't fully evaluated the situation.

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#89
Sep 18 2021 04:25am
Quote (Inheritance @ Sep 18 2021 05:19am)
I've heard this so many times yet not once has anyone suggested how people are just meant to "get better"..

You don't realise it but "getting better" means PvP will take on an extremely defensive dynamic, where casters are screens away spamming fball/bspear/bspirit or whatever it may be just to avoid stuns.

This makes for extremely boring PvP as the ability to be aggressive is one of the strongest components to D2 PvP IMHO.

You've also failed to consider what the impact of a failed PvP system will have on the longevity of the game, it's simple to say just go back to D2 but end-game PvP gear gives purpose to the entire PvM model..

That's not to say D2R PvP won't work, we'll have to find out, but your flippant remarks show you haven't fully evaluated the situation.


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#90
Sep 18 2021 04:29am
Get good, get offscreen.

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