Cops who fine people for minor things like tail lights instead of just giving an alert to the driver are making society worse IMO. If you're driving with both lights out, that's obviously dangerous, but cops who go out of their way to ticket minor and harmless offenses like a single non-working light are pricks and we are worse off with them on the force.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 10 2021 08:40pm

cops are more privileged than white women

and kenw swoops in with a bunch of garbled nonsense no one can comprehend.

If something harmful to society isn’t enforced because we deem it not that big a deal then it’s a self fulfilling prophecy.

A hundred dollar fine or whatever it is, is designed as a deterrent without the deterrent you’d have more people driving without the lights resulting in accidents.

I’ve had lights out and got a ticket once for one and yeah I was annoyed but in the grand scheme of things that’s how it should be.

What’s a hundred bucks in contrast to lives being lost because people choose either to skimp or be lazy about things like replacing headlights or whatever.

Also even one headlight being out is dangerous.

In the grand scheme of things the social contract is the reason we are here today, without it we’d just be some lonely apes, possible even extinct.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 10 2021 09:53pm

I never said they shouldn't ticket for it.

The fact that people take issue with how those cops acted on that video serves as evidence that we can never have productive cultural discussion about this situation.

Some extremists will never be happy unless the cops have carte blanche. Opposing extremists think that cops should need to be 100% perfect in their words and actions all the time in order to be acceptable. Neither extreme is ever going to become reality. Therefore, the only productive discussion is one that excludes supporters of both extreme viewpoints.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Apr 10 2021 10:54pm

its a video showing a cooperating military person being berated and treated like a guilty convicted criminal by overzealous cops. hardly paints the police in a good light

i agree with the sentiment of your post but at the same time come on they tell him to put his hands outside the vehicle and open the door and step out while still buckled in. cop says “youre under arrest wait no youre being detained” as the driver has his hands out the window talking calmly. who do they think they pulled over? goku or houdini?

This is a perfect example of what I mean. The video clearly shows that the cops gave the driver ample opportunity to cooperate. He opted not to cooperate despite these opportunities. Yet you look at the video and describe him as "cooperating".

It's impossible to engage in discussion if people are unwilling to acknowledge clear evidence.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Apr 10 2021 11:32pm

I don't think we need to cater to extremists though. Cops are put into some tough situations sometimes. Sometimes those situations are unwinnable and they have to take the least bad option.

This is a situation where the cop just doesn't have what it takes to be a good cop though. You can't just assault people when you're having a bad day. Given that you're in a position of authority, you should face the maximum sentence that a civilian would face if they did that.



How can you cooperate when you are given conflicting commands?

This post was edited by thundercock on Apr 10 2021 11:37pm