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Jan 18 2021 08:44pm
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Whistleblowers who reveal actual illegal activity should be given a lifetime pension and women should be delivered to them at their request.


I think there are merits to whistleblowing but people like Snowden are traitorous scumbags.
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Jan 18 2021 08:52pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jan 18 2021 08:44pm)
I think there are merits to whistleblowing but people like Snowden are traitorous scumbags.


I mean, what he revealed is wildly illegal and widespread.
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Jan 18 2021 09:16pm
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Allegations from the Fake News institutions that try to convince the people that Brett Kavanaugh is a serial gang rapist.

Enemy of the people. And one day they'll learn Freedom of the Press doesn't mean freedom from consequences.


Explain what this means.
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Jan 18 2021 10:59pm
Quote (Brian_D @ Jan 18 2021 10:16pm)
Explain what this means.


CNN's ratings are lowest in recorded history.
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Honestly, if Trump had ignored Giuliani back in 2017, he wouldn't have been impeached either time.


Yes, but Trump's frankly appalling personnel decisions are a function of who he is. There's something to be said for the fact that he had to rely on someone like Rudy in the first place.
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Jan 18 2021 11:32pm
Quote (Brian_D @ Jan 18 2021 07:16pm)
Explain what this means.


It means whatever you want it to mean.

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Is the NY Times the problem or is it the source? IMO, leakers should have their tongues cut out. In Snowden's case, he should lose his hands and his eyes. People will continue leaking things to the press until there are consequences.


I think it was on Tucker tonight, heard while driving home from work, that there's plenty of selective punishment in leaks. People who leaked throughout the Trump administration have been seen as conscious driven heroes while anyone who leaks information damaging to the establishment powers is heavily punished.

The media will publish any "leak" that damages Trump. People still think he said WWI troops were "losers" based off one nonsensical article reliant on one anonymous source, heavily contested by over 20 people who actually would name themselves. The inherent disloyalty of any leaker makes me naturally dislike them.

Snowden actually leaked information that revealed wrongdoing committed by the government. The kind of leaks that benefit the nation. The bulk of Trump "leaks" have just been unveiled swipes to tarnish his image. And since the media is hand in hand with the DNC, shit gets tons of play. Every segment on CNN should have a disclaimer like the rest of the trash that plays during election season. CNN, CBS and NBC are just Super PACs playing political ads 24/7. Truly, there is no enemy as sinister as the lying press and with God's help one day a brave man or group will shut their lying mouths for good.


This post was edited by PlasmaSnake101 on Jan 18 2021 11:34pm
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Odds- Bison man gets Pardon
Rich blondie idiot with plane- Gets pardon
Both?

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I think it was on Tucker tonight, heard while driving home from work, that there's plenty of selective punishment in leaks. People who leaked throughout the Trump administration have been seen as conscious driven heroes while anyone who leaks information damaging to the establishment powers is heavily punished.

The media will publish any "leak" that damages Trump. People still think he said WWI troops were "losers" based off one nonsensical article reliant on one anonymous source, heavily contested by over 20 people who actually would name themselves. The inherent disloyalty of any leaker makes me naturally dislike them.

Snowden actually leaked information that revealed wrongdoing committed by the government. The kind of leaks that benefit the nation. The bulk of Trump "leaks" have just been unveiled swipes to tarnish his image. And since the media is hand in hand with the DNC, shit gets tons of play. Every segment on CNN should have a disclaimer like the rest of the trash that plays during election season. CNN, CBS and NBC are just Super PACs playing political ads 24/7. Truly, there is no enemy as sinister as the lying press and with God's help one day a brave man or group will shut their lying mouths for good.


There's not selective punishment... people who get caught get punished(see: Reality Winner). There's selective outrage perhaps.... leaks that reveal Trump's misbehavior are praised by the left and condemned by the right... although the left-of-center reaction to Snowden and Assange(pre-Russiagate) was mixed. Many(probably most) people on the left praised their actions.

Much of the reporting from that Atlantic article was corroborated by other journalists... even Fox News. Ah, so you like leaks when it's national security secrets but despise them when it reveals Trump's character.

Any good faith observer who follows the best news organizations knows that the vast majority of reporting on Trump and his administration is accurate. People with MDS(Media Derangement Syndrome) can't acknowledge that, but it's 100% true.

The only reason Trump would pardon Snowden is because it would piss people off. He doesn't value transparency. He's not opposed to our security services spying on people. And for Assange, it's basically the same thing. Trump advocated killing the families of terrorists during the campaign... he pardons war criminals. He doesn't care if the US massacred a van of civilians. Assange helped him in the election so it's payback to pardon him. If you applaud the pardons for these guys, at least acknowledge the reality that Trump's motivations are not laudable in any sense.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jan 19 2021 10:33am
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Jan 19 2021 11:04am
Tanya McDowell should have her record expunged.
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