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Feb 12 2021 05:41am
Bramble Bolt Shadow is probably the best known IAS Shadow bow. I have a similar one thats 2 less damage :)
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Feb 12 2021 10:19am
do u eu guys still use that same dupe jewel for bows? was it skull gyre? shadow gyre?
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Feb 12 2021 10:26am
storm gyre.

that jewel no longer exists. they stopped duping it when a better one appeared and now with duping (apparently?) gone, there are none left. bramble bolt has the new jewel in it btw. 30ed adds 10-18 damage.

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Feb 12 2021 10:31am
Why did you allow dupes in MLD?
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Feb 12 2021 10:36am
just a joke disclaimer

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its ok, i giggled :)

Frankly (see what i did there), duped jewels were allowed @ MLD noting the purposes of MLD was to compete, in the most economical fashion and as soon as possible. Way back in the day (i mean pre 2012) it was so hard to even find 15ias 30ed jewels that it was obvious to allow it. There were no discussions at MLD re: to allow or not to allow. The purpose of MLD was to duel.

I stayed clear of the 30 rules at all times since there were so many vested interests, which included the duped jewel discussion. Alex removed that rule @ Level 30 some years ago so I am absolving myself of that. I didnt propose it, I am just a caretaker. For all his faults (very difficult to talk to, kept pushing the envelope) he also brought in max 65% block on sorc's which for Fire and Cold (i tweaked out this penalty on light sorcs) - I think this is probably the best and fairest rule addition ever, in favour of melee chars. When you consider that melee characters (in the absence of teleport) need as much as they can get they can get from jewels to compete with casters, and noting the max block rule, i feel this was pretty fair.
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Quote (ferdia @ 12 Feb 2021 09:59)
its ok, i giggled :)

Frankly (see what i did there), duped jewels were allowed @ MLD noting the purposes of MLD was to compete, in the most economical fashion and as soon as possible. Way back in the day (i mean pre 2012) it was so hard to even find 15ias 30ed jewels that it was obvious to allow it. There were no discussions at MLD re: to allow or not to allow. The purpose of MLD was to duel.

I stayed clear of the 30 rules at all times since there were so many vested interests, which included the duped jewel discussion. Alex removed that rule @ Level 30 some years ago so I am absolving myself of that. I didnt propose it, I am just a caretaker. For all his faults (very difficult to talk to, kept pushing the envelope) he also brought in max 65% block on sorc's which for Fire and Cold (i tweaked out this penalty on light sorcs) - I think this is probably the best and fairest rule addition ever, in favour of melee chars. When you consider that melee characters (in the absence of teleport) need as much as they can get they can get from jewels to compete with casters, and noting the max block rule, i feel this was pretty fair.


Could have just said you were bias towards your own interests in duped jewels for your mld bowa dude!!! The long defence not necessary
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Feb 12 2021 11:04am
OK!

I was biased towards my bowa in order to equip 15ias 30 ed jewels.
I note that back in the day there were so many lld chars that did not compete because they could not find 24 maxers.

anyway, wrong place for this discussion, and frankly there is no right place for this discussion as time repeatedly has proven.
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Feb 12 2021 11:14am
Quote (ferdia @ 12 Feb 2021 10:04)
OK!

I was biased towards my bowa in order to equip 15ias 30 ed jewels.
I note that back in the day there were so many lld chars that did not compete because they could not find 24 maxers.

anyway, wrong place for this discussion, and frankly there is no right place for this discussion as time repeatedly has proven.


just teasing you to clarify
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i think anyone that posts in this thread needs to post a trophy. this will be my restriction for posting in this thread this year. starting tomorrow :)
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