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Nov 11 2020 03:54am
What ias bp's are possible to reach in classic?

What bow would be best for dmg?
Guessing Gothic Bow is the one to go for, but 20 ias crusal on the bow or will 10 ias or none ias work too?

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Nov 11 2020 09:58am
gothic 10 - 20 ias + twitch 20ias + death set 30ias = 10 frames per attack = 2.5 attacks/sec
rune 20 ias + twitch 20ias + death set 30ias = 9 frames per attack = 2.77 attacks/sec

https://d2.lc/IAS/

But i dont know anything about pvm builds, I think there is only frost-zon or something like this and no idea how much ias this girl needs.
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Nov 11 2020 04:13pm
hello, i found this if that may help you :thumbsup:

http://mynthon.net/d2/ama_tables.php

This post was edited by CHIWAWA on Nov 11 2020 04:13pm
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Nov 13 2020 04:11am
Doomslinger is fastest weapon in classic 64 ias
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Nov 13 2020 08:34am
10 ias will work on gothic, as R4 mentioned

double bow is also an option.....u will need 80 IAS to get 8 frames and 40 or 50 ias for 9 frames i think.....but u sacrafice a lot (20 Bow, 20 twitch, sigon helm+gloves 30 and goldwarp 10....means no anti freeze for AVA) and dmg of double bow is significant lower then rune.....so imo rune = better then double
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Quote (Seelenheil @ Nov 13 2020 03:34pm)
10 ias will work on gothic, as R4 mentioned

double bow is also an option.....u will need 80 IAS to get 8 frames and 40 or 50 ias for 9 frames i think.....but u sacrafice a lot (20 Bow, 20 twitch, sigon helm+gloves 30 and goldwarp 10....means no anti freeze for AVA) and dmg of double bow is significant lower then rune.....so imo rune = better then double


Omg you are back

I thought you pass... ^^

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Quote (Seelenheil @ Nov 13 2020 08:34am)
10 ias will work on gothic, as R4 mentioned

double bow is also an option.....u will need 80 IAS to get 8 frames and 40 or 50 ias for 9 frames i think.....but u sacrafice a lot (20 Bow, 20 twitch, sigon helm+gloves 30 and goldwarp 10....means no anti freeze for AVA) and dmg of double bow is significant lower then rune.....so imo rune = better then double


The 80 ias bp is a distraction to the real power of a double bow.
The power is being able to cleg while matching rune in speed.
The problem is losing cannot be frozen mod from deaths belt because to hit 50 ias with cleg you gotta use gold wrap

To counter this problem you have to have max cold resist, half freeze duration boots and stacked thawing pots. Therefore most people dont consider it a viable zvz build along with the BM part
But there is the chance the enemy zon skipped cold damage in their build assuming all zons use deaths belt. So dont underestimate it.

Disclaimer **these claims have not been approved by the European pvp council**
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Quote (SagittariusA @ Nov 13 2020 07:55pm)
The 80 ias bp is a distraction to the real power of a double bow.
The power is being able to cleg while matching rune in speed.
The problem is losing cannot be frozen mod from deaths belt because to hit 50 ias with cleg you gotta use gold wrap

To counter this problem you have to have max cold resist, half freeze duration boots and stacked thawing pots. Therefore most people dont consider it a viable zvz build along with the BM part
But there is the chance the enemy zon skipped cold damage in their build assuming all zons use deaths belt. So dont underestimate it.

Disclaimer **these claims have not been approved by the European pvp council**


I will try your build because I got sexy double bow
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Quote (SagittariusA @ Nov 13 2020 07:55pm)
The 80 ias bp is a distraction to the real power of a double bow.
The power is being able to cleg while matching rune in speed.
The problem is losing cannot be frozen mod from deaths belt because to hit 50 ias with cleg you gotta use gold wrap

To counter this problem you have to have max cold resist, half freeze duration boots and stacked thawing pots. Therefore most people dont consider it a viable zvz build along with the BM part
But there is the chance the enemy zon skipped cold damage in their build assuming all zons use deaths belt. So dont underestimate it.

Disclaimer **these claims have not been approved by the European pvp council**


Last sentence. True. ^^
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Quote (SagittariusA @ Nov 13 2020 08:55pm)
The 80 ias bp is a distraction to the real power of a double bow.
The power is being able to cleg while matching rune in speed.
The problem is losing cannot be frozen mod from deaths belt because to hit 50 ias with cleg you gotta use gold wrap

To counter this problem you have to have max cold resist, half freeze duration boots and stacked thawing pots. Therefore most people dont consider it a viable zvz build along with the BM part
But there is the chance the enemy zon skipped cold damage in their build assuming all zons use deaths belt. So dont underestimate it.

Disclaimer **these claims have not been approved by the European pvp council**



this is a point, being able to use cleg is an advantage vs some chars
.....but all in all i dont consider cleg to be strong in AvA.....imo u loose to much compared to a good rune or gothic


Quote (LsE @ Nov 13 2020 08:48pm)
Omg you are back

I thought you pass... ^^



not rly....i am online almost every evening on my main acc val......but there is absolutly not much going on there in classic ladder / nl ....so it is so borring that i just made a bone nec for lod NL to make some duells :P
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