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Oct 21 2020 06:49am
Quote (pobo2 @ Oct 21 2020 03:47pm)
when using phaseblades and frenzy is lvl 0 you need 174 ias to reach max speed. with ba you need 638. i am not sure though if using frenzy lvl 0 for calculation is correct, probably not :P


Wow, that's an info.Really thank you! What about if fana is on? I guess that 638 cup gets lower.
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Quote (BlackTwister @ 21 Oct 2020 14:29)
That's exactly what I asked :) Thanks alot!


Quote (BlackTwister @ 21 Oct 2020 14:49)
Wow, that's an info.Really thank you! What about if fana is on? I guess that 638 cup gets lower.


all these info should be approachable in ias calculator by a 08 user with almost 70k posts.
neverthless, everyone is telling you that the build is sh!t.

In order to close topic:
Yes I tried it on 1.10 and is not viable against any pvp character.
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Oct 21 2020 07:30am
Quote (attila @ Oct 21 2020 04:24pm)
all these info should be approachable in ias calculator by a 08 user with almost 70k posts.
neverthless, everyone is telling you that the build is sh!t.

In order to close topic:
Yes I tried it on 1.10 and is not viable against any pvp character.


I'd take your advice given your joindate since you say that you've tried it, but I've never ever seen or heared you in the pvp grounds till this day. That's why I am gonna keep on this thread.

Thanks for posting.
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Quote (BlackTwister @ 21 Oct 2020 15:30)
I'd take your advice given your joindate since you say that you've tried it, but I've never ever seen or heared you in the pvp grounds till this day. That's why I am gonna keep on this thread.

Thanks for posting.


to add some more constructive info
I tried back in early 1.10 public realm with dual botd ba and gear rearranged from bvc, total failure.
Tried also in 1.13 on private server (who wish to invest in a almost certain failure) and even switching between bug items and perf stuff, never found a competitive setup.
the build up is just to slow to get advantage of it (if need 1-2 hit to start benefit) and for example a zerker will almost surely kill you in same number of hit
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Quote (attila @ Oct 21 2020 04:32pm)
to add some more constructive info
I tried back in early 1.10 public realm with dual botd ba and gear rearranged from bvc, total failure.
Tried also in 1.13 on private server (who wish to invest in a almost certain failure) and even switching between bug items and perf stuff, never found a competitive setup.
the build up is just to slow to get advantage of it (if need 1-2 hit to start benefit) and for example a zerker will almost surely kill you in same number of hit


Thanks alot Attila! :)
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Quote (attila @ Oct 21 2020 04:32pm)
to add some more constructive info
I tried back in early 1.10 public realm with dual botd ba and gear rearranged from bvc, total failure.
Tried also in 1.13 on private server (who wish to invest in a almost certain failure) and even switching between bug items and perf stuff, never found a competitive setup.
the build up is just to slow to get advantage of it (if need 1-2 hit to start benefit) and for example a zerker will almost surely kill you in same number of hit


Just counted. It takes 180 ias when you use ba (considering lvl 9 fana is activated) to hit the max ias bp, or 174 with dual pbs. It's practically impossible to hit such goals...

This post was edited by BlackTwister on Oct 21 2020 02:35pm
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Oct 23 2020 06:54am
It’s really bad but the best weapons 100% are:

Wsm bugging your weapons with 1 fucking fast weapon and 1 crazy slow weapon

So:

Grief phase blade (fast weapon)(preferably god pb cos ds and cb)
Death colossus sword (slow weapon)

Place your death on glove side, pb on boots side, lift your death once after bo and bam. You got -50 wsm frenzy and way faster than dual phaseblade, easy slow cover and maximum ias frames possible.

With lvl 25 frenzy you just need 8 ias for max frame with this, grief or god pb gives 40 and hL 20 so you’ll cover a ton of slow, easily bb arach slow but even most of holy freeze and a cleglaw for example

This post was edited by Stefbef on Oct 23 2020 07:03am
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Oct 23 2020 06:56am
But then again it’s really bad, I even prefer zeal barb with a wsm bugged passion battle hammer 20 wsm with a phaseblade grief/god

War cry stun opponents and you’ll hit 5.0 attacks per second with zeal with grief/god phase blade, with only grief hitting (best dmg weapon anyway)

You just use passion battle hammer for the slow weapon for a good wsm bug and the zeal skill ofc
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Oct 23 2020 07:02am
Quote (pobo2 @ 21 Oct 2020 14:24)
i don't understand what ias cup you are looking for?! do you want to have max attack speed even before your first hit? pretty sure this is impossible to achieve. you must land at least some hits to have max speed. not sure about the numbers though...



And yes this is true. Even with -50 wsm with wsm bug you will have 4,54 hits per second before the first frenzy hits and those 4,54 is if you have 50 ias (god/grief and hL = 60 so)

It’s possible but you will need 89 ias for 5,0 hits per second with this setup without the frenzy ias. So maybe if u get 2x 15/40 in helm or a pair of ias gloves (I’d prefer Trang and play at least 37 fcr with this setup tbh)

All other setups like dual grief pb etc are much slower and will require way more ias
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Quote (Stefbef @ Oct 23 2020 04:02pm)
And yes this is true. Even with -50 wsm with wsm bug you will have 4,54 hits per second before the first frenzy hits and those 4,54 is if you have 50 ias (god/grief and hL = 60 so)

It’s possible but you will need 89 ias for 5,0 hits per second with this setup without the frenzy ias. So maybe if u get 2x 15/40 in helm or a pair of ias gloves (I’d prefer Trang and play at least 37 fcr with this setup tbh)

All other setups like dual grief pb etc are much slower and will require way more ias


Thanks alot Stefy! Wouldnt gather this much information in an other guide :)
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