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Aug 9 2020 07:24am
It's same across the field for almost all AAA franchises, and the cause is spelled money.
Gaming was by nerds for nerds when we grew up, now it's big money. Gaming industry surpassed the film industry already back in 2016.
It's been ongoing since 2005-2010 and worse everyday, games are typically not aiming to be timeless or of pristine quality, their aim is to make money.
There's always exceptions, just like the film industry, but it's rare.

The diablo franchise is unfortunately at ground zero of corporate bullshit.

If anything we should be happy that we lived the underground/golden era of gaming as youths, our kids/kids of this day wasn't so lucky. call me a boomer/elitist idc, it wasn't all better in the past but gaming was from the gamers perspective change my mind.

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Quote (SpAz. @ Aug 9 2020 06:24am)
It's same across the field for almost all AAA franchises, and the cause is spelled money.
Gaming was by nerds for nerds when we grew up, now it's big money. Gaming industry surpassed the film industry already back in 2016.
It's been ongoing since 2005-2010 and worse everyday, games are typically not aiming to be timeless or of pristine quality, their aim is to make money.
There's always exceptions, just like the film industry, but it's rare.

The diablo franchise is unfortunately at ground zero of corporate bullshit.

If anything we should be happy that we lived the underground/golden era of gaming as youths, our kids/kids of this day wasn't so lucky. call me a boomer/elitist idc, it wasn't all better in the past but gaming was from the gamers perspective change my mind.



Truth. :(
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Aug 10 2020 02:29pm
I absolutely agree. You know what it is? I just realized this the other night.


Diablo 2 is/was just an interactive chat room. Some of the best times is just chatting with your buddies, hanging out in the lobby.

Still to this day ill hop on op hccl- and chat with the guys for a few minutes, you dont get that in diablo 3. We need to bring back channels and hang out spots.

I miss the friendships and good times and the grinds, not necessarily the game. I see d3 and d4 as just spin offs of sorts. Though i will play if/when it comes to xbox :)

learning the game at your own pace and what not. now you wait a day and have access to the whole game and know the ins and outs of it all.

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Aug 10 2020 04:26pm
blizzard is dead. They are completely incapable of making great games. No one should buy their products.
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Aug 10 2020 06:37pm
Quote (adamantell1987 @ 29 Jul 2020 18:30)
sad and disappointed

Anyone else feel this game is nothing like D2 / LOD what the fans want and more like a WOW / D3 reskin?

I know it's not coming but D2 Remaster be perfect for me.


Yes, I did expect it's gonna be a real shit game just like d3...THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK!


Quote (gOOk @ 8 Aug 2020 09:47)
Never understood why people want every Diablo game to be like D2? Is it because people are lazy and want to just mindlessly click without having to think?


What do you think d3 is? It's infinite more time worst. No seriously wtf did you expect about any games? we click and then we become lazy? Then you became lazy to click this topic :/

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Quote (B00man @ Aug 8 2020 09:04am)
D3 is mindless clicking. D2 has method to the madness.
people want the next Diablo game to be like D2 because D2 is a TIMELESS CLASSIC
and would much rather it not be like D3 because D3 is UTTER GARBAGE
here is picture

https://i.postimg.cc/YCTTCScW/graph.png


That's funny. Well played sir.
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Aug 12 2020 05:38am
Between D1 to D4 will be over 25 years. Of course D1 is not like D2 is not like D3 is not like D4.
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Aug 14 2020 02:17am
Quote (adamantell1987 @ Jul 29 2020 04:30pm)
sad and disappointed

Anyone else feel this game is nothing like D2 / LOD what the fans want and more like a WOW / D3 reskin?

I know it's not coming but D2 Remaster be perfect for me.


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Quote (gOOk @ Aug 8 2020 11:51pm)
That's what I'm trying to say, take top features but make a new game, but the way everyone cries how if it's not exactly like D2 is mind boggling to me. They took the trading feature from D2 and made the auction house, if they fine tuned it and didn't implement RMT that system would've worked. Look at wow and how they have their auction house. The moment they removed AH rather than fix it and made items account bound I just stopped playing. What they really need to do is look at GGG and how they run POE. My only downside with Poe is that the leagues are too short and that they need to change their drop rates so people aren't maxing out gear within the first week.


I don't think you interpret people correctly. They don't want exactly d2 they just want the best features carried over from it. Because they believe the developers are completely incapable of this due to their past track records results in a lack of trust. When you can't trust them to make something new you just default to hoping for a remaster of the last game that was actually something.

Poe is good but does not have a core component of d2 which is engaging PvP. For many people leader boards and pve progression isn't enough stimulus and they need a reson for doing it and that reason can't be, well now you can run the same thing but faster! That dosent do it. Many want to pair off and play against another person, humans are naturally competitive after all. This drives people to engage in pve to mf.

D2 was at its best before stat resets. Naturally you will find better gear and have to re roll characters thus playing the game over and over since you want your stats to be perfect. E.g. no wasted points in something like str now that you made your enigma or you got an Anni. This created a perfect loope of replayability.

For many of us pve does not feel like a challenge and won't drive the replay loop, beating someone on a leaderboard in pve often feels like a no life task, beating someone because you slightly out positioned or can chain lock better or whatever besides total bming feels good.
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Aug 14 2020 06:10pm
ashes of creation

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