Citation needed

Every study conducted so far on things like UBI have shown that they don't reduce the amount they work except in cases where they should, like new mothers



It's both culture, and coming from money. If your parents have money you get so many more fuck ups than if your parents have no money. My cousins have rich parents and have gotten away with so many more things than I could dream of because their parents could hire very good representation for them. It's culture, it's money, and the political system. And when the political system is against you it makes it harder to get money and harder to develop a positive culture.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jul 12 2020 01:06pm

Reparations would of made sense 100 year ago, not today.

Vast majority of whites here today came in the early 20th century. Germans, Poles, Russians, eastern Europeans, Italians, Irish etc. If you want racism to rise and for people to resent another group then force them to pay for something their ancestors weren't even here for.

Democrats need to stay away from this issue like the plague. They won't just alienate a bunch of whites but pretty much all other races that are being forced to pay for things they had nothing to do with.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jul 12 2020 01:18pm

I think a good solution is to have people take an implicit bias test every year and you pay a penalty/tax based on your score.

The American government would pay, not pollacks.

You're concerned about fairness but ignoring slavery, jim crow, systemic racism?

The American government doesn’t just represent anglo-saxons, Spaniards and Portuguese who predominantly dominated the slave trade.

None of my ancestors were here 50 years ago. If you think anyone in my family line & many like me are going to roll over and agree to have our tax dollars go to something we had nothing to do with then gl.

Imagine telling the Hispanic/Latino Or Asian populationS their taxes are increasing because we have to pay reparations. Would be the end of the Democratic Party.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jul 12 2020 01:36pm

The american government does represent the american government though.
And native americans see reparations to this day are you out there protesting this?

unfortunately there are a lot of pale pasty privileged lefties who look at minorities like this with utter scorn and contempt. this is due to the fact this group of minorities “behave and think” in a manner is opposed to how pale pasty privileged lefties ‘expect minorities to act’.

it’s pretty blatant racism that gets brushed aside or even ignored quite frequently. look how quickly skinned attempted to dismiss the study because he called it anecdotal evidence only. didn’t fit his pre-conceived notion of how minorities “should think, feel, and behave due to their skin color” etc. that is sort of underhanded racism that comes from the privilege that northern pale pasty privileged lefty racists showcase all the time. another example is of course the expected (D) nominee, Crime bill writer Joe Biden, screaming at a black male this message: if you are black person who hasn’t decided to vote for Biden yet “you ain’t black”

This post was edited by excellence on Jul 12 2020 02:15pm

What is the correct dollar amount, paid over what time frame?

I learned recently that almost all white families in the United States can trace their families wealth back to the United States literally giving away land, and that minority families were not allowed to apply for those land grants. That land was used as the seed money for those families for generations, investing and building multi-generational wealth, while at the same time black families were often disallowed from even getting loans for homes in the good parts of town, which then lead to less wealth, corporate exploitation, less political power to fight the exploitation, etc. etc.

There is no fair in this situation for everybody. I think the best we can do now is provide access to education for everybody while rooting out systemic racism, like the laws in North Carolina that were struck down for disallowing methods of voter ID specifically based on which races were more likely to use which forms of ID. Still, that' will likely not be good enough since they take years in court to overturn at minimum, and often never get overturned.

wrong. the american government is not its own entity. it is a direct representation of the people who elected it at the time they elected it, ie , the american people, and the government's money is their money. as mentioned, 100 years ago reparations may have made sense. it is now absurd to expect that people who primarily had nothing at all to do with slavery have their tax dollars go to people who were not slaves.

possibly if you could find the descendants of confirmed slave owners you could have them pay reparations to actual descendants of confirmed slaves. but even that makes little sense at this point, and would be quite difficult to prove.





as well as who pays it to whom? all of which is impossible to determine.