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May 28 2020 02:58am
Quote (addone @ May 28 2020 08:42am)
aware but with life replenish
max block
high defense
holy freeze

you could bring it down and heal faster then what is being dished out


In most situations, you are right.
But the first pack of frenzy minotaurs with extra strong (or might), while being cursed (-100% physical res), will destroy you.

If you want to rely on defense, try with Fortitude weapon (+200% defense).

My best attempts for total immortality were with :
- cold sorceress with shiver/chilling armors, TS and many items with %ctc when struck (dealing noticable damage with synergies/masteries),
- blade shield assassin. The trick is blade shield uses leech, so you can heal more than you are damaged.
But in both cases, I'll have to recast cold armors or blade shield every 5 minutes or so.

If you allow the use of mercenary, then just make a good one, and he will kill all targets with you AFK.
If you allow summoner ... there's no challenge at all !
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May 28 2020 03:12am
Quote (feanur @ May 28 2020 08:58pm)
In most situations, you are right.
But the first pack of frenzy minotaurs with extra strong (or might), while being cursed (-100% physical res), will destroy you.

If you want to rely on defense, try with Fortitude weapon (+200% defense).

My best attempts for total immortality were with :
- cold sorceress with shiver/chilling armors, TS and many items with %ctc when struck (dealing noticable damage with synergies/masteries),
- blade shield assassin. The trick is blade shield uses leech, so you can heal more than you are damaged.
But in both cases, I'll have to recast cold armors or blade shield every 5 minutes or so.

If you allow the use of mercenary, then just make a good one, and he will kill all targets with you AFK.
If you allow summoner ... there's no challenge at all !


yea i havent considered a merc because he most likely die unless he has some incredible lifesteal and aura buffs, pretty sure he dies to ubers or vipers or anything that has high damage
summons are not allowed as they are considered prebuff and even then what skellies will eventually die to beefy pack of moonlords, so idk about that.

hmm chiling armr defence life resists on fort yea sounds great
20% Chance To Cast Level 15 Chilling Armor when Struck
+200% Enhanced Defense
+X To Life (Based on Character Level)*
All Resistances +25-30 (varies)

vs Hoto
3 To All Skills
+10 To Dexterity (Better mb)
Replenish Life +20
Increase Maximum Mana 15%
All Resistances +30-40 (varies)

Resists dont really matter on items since you can easily stack that with annie torch and scs
-100 -125conviction = -225% to get to 0 +75% = 300% + 20%max resist = 90%

anya quest 30%
torch 20% takes 2squares
anni 20% takes 1square
40 inventory squares - 3= 37 free squares to fill up with scs
each sc is 5all res/20life x 37 = 185 %
30+20+20+185 = 255%
300 - 255 = 45% is how much resists you need from gear which is very easy to get


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May 28 2020 03:19am
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- blade shield assassin. The trick is blade shield uses leech, so you can heal more than you are damaged.
But in both cases, I'll have to recast cold armors or blade shield every 5 minutes or so.


I have done some tests with blade shield and it's amazing with life leech.



I only had 50%dr there, nothing more fancy.
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May 28 2020 03:21am
High level skeletons (with IG and mercenary) are never in danger ! But you can discard them if your rule is not using allies.

Fortitude vs HotO is not an obvious choice of course. This could require some tests.
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May 28 2020 03:28am
Quote (cantero @ May 28 2020 10:19am)
I have done some tests with blade shield and it's amazing with life leech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcBJ2TebQm8

I only had 50%dr there, nothing more fancy.


^^

Thank you !

Did you equip Grief ?

My assassin uses :
Grief (PB)
Fortitude (AP)
Phoenix (Monarch)
+2 / leech circlet
Highlord's
Soul drainer gloves
min/ar/leech rings (x2)
String of Ear
Gore boots
ar (max-ar) / life charms

precast (weapon switch) : 2 x claws, for higher blade shield and venom.

She seems to kill much faster ...
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May 28 2020 03:33am
Yea just did some quick testing, under these stipulations, I am pretty certain it is impossible. Not being able to interact with the game + the durability requirements means there are very few gear options to even test.

There will always be at least one scenario in which you cannot survive when extrapolated in the long run.
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May 28 2020 03:35am
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^^

Thank you !

Did you equip Grief ?

My assassin uses :
Grief (PB)
Fortitude (AP)
Phoenix (Monarch)
+2 / leech circlet
Highlord's
Soul drainer gloves
min/ar/leech rings (x2)
String of Ear
Gore boots
ar (max-ar) / life charms

precast (weapon switch) : 2 x claws, for higher blade shield and venom.

She seems to kill much faster ...


What kind of assa do you make that uses grief?
I was testing something different from this topic. She is a dual claw kick assa to kill ubers, i was testing the benefits of blade shield when you are sorrounded by monsters.
You can take a look at her in action:

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May 28 2020 03:38am
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Yea just did some quick testing, under these stipulations, I am pretty certain it is impossible. Not being able to interact with the game + the durability requirements means there are very few gear options to even test.

There will always be at least one scenario in which you cannot survive when extrapolated in the long run.


Curious what you tested?

also thought of delirium as a helm would help out vs big mobs :D

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May 28 2020 09:12am
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What kind of assa do you make that uses grief?
(...)


Blade shield uses weapon damage (divided by 4). Grief is by far the best 1-hand weapon as far as damage is concerned.
Also 20% DS applies, PMH and ignore defense, and life bonus after each kill...
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May 28 2020 09:18am
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Blade shield uses weapon damage (divided by 4). Grief is by far the best 1-hand weapon as far as damage is concerned.
Also 20% DS applies, PMH and ignore defense, and life bonus after each kill...


My weapon does not damage



So monsters were dying because venom.
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