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Jan 13 2020 10:12am
Should we (that still level 18...) allow the level 18 Sorceress be allowed to level 24 making them a more viable build for lv 18 tvt?

Doing this would open up the option for them to use 15Life/12 mana's and lv 24 skills ( Blizzard, Thunderstorm, Energy Shield & Meteor )

Interested in hearing your idea's about this and or other idea's to spice up lv 18 tvt

Will automatically wave the first 15+ No's for The Banana Crew & multi's..

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Jan 13 2020 10:18am
No
A lvl 24 es sorc would destroy everything in the bracket
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Jan 13 2020 10:23am
Sounds bad, you never have a good idea.
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Jan 13 2020 10:23am
Quote (randythebadLLDer @ Jan 13 2020 11:18am)
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A lvl 24 es sorc would destroy everything in the bracket


how so?

obv bmana's would be considered bm... and you can only drop 1 point into ES. Energy would be like 55%? with prebuff ( 1/3 es orb/ 1 lite circ/ 1 lite amulet/ sig shield/??? )


Main build that would come out of this level upgrade would be a fber

a lv 24 Fber would be at 961-1087 Fireball With 1pt into telek, tele, warmth

also you are able to hit 105% fcr bp

This post was edited by RPG5621 on Jan 13 2020 10:31am
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Jan 13 2020 10:59am
Quote (RPG5621 @ Jan 13 2020 05:23pm)
how so?

obv bmana's would be considered bm... and you can only drop 1 point into ES. Energy would be like 55%? with prebuff ( 1/3 es orb/ 1 lite circ/ 1 lite amulet/ sig shield/??? )


Main build that would come out of this level upgrade would be a fber

a lv 24 Fber would be at 961-1087 Fireball With 1pt into telek, tele, warmth

also you are able to hit 105% fcr bp


A lvl 24 sorc would be really strong vs the meta. A few of us have already tried this on both open and closed bnet.
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Jan 13 2020 11:05am
Quote (lld_mayhem @ Jan 13 2020 11:59am)
A lvl 24 sorc would be really strong vs the meta. A few of us have already tried this on both open and closed bnet.


With bowas and chargers being the op class... and fbers pretty much non existent... and pretty much all casters non existent ( minus pnb, fissures ). figured upping sorcs to level 24 ( maybe allow certain sorc builds? if fb are that op)?

i mean i agree to a point... but its that much harder to get 105/86 bps at lv 24 ( still cant use spirit sword )
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Jan 13 2020 11:25am
Yes, they should.

having built a 24 lightning, blizz, fwall, and fball sorc. i can say fireball is the most OP in terms of dmg, and firewall is the most OP in terms of dmg mitigation and mana regen.

neither of them however are OP in terms of wins/losses. fireballer prone to ooming then having no real chance. firewaller prone to dying before it can kill the other player because dmg is low.

blizzer plays like a less powerful fissure, but with iceblast being a better dps attack than firestorm, and having tele ofc.

light sorc is just bad, mana balance is off, dmg isnt great, etc.

all of my sorcs use a +3es/+3ca warmth staff on swap as a mini-insight, still regen fairly slowly other than fwaller.

none of my sorcs use a perf set of 15-12s. i handicapped myself for testing and because im not putting 20k fg into the invs of lvl 24 sorcs.

all built with otherwise gm gear and repcaps. other than wearing shadow collars ofc.


if anyone would like to test these that doesnt already have passwords lmk, u can hop on and duel 18s and tell my your experience.

and, if anyone wants to buy a char where 90% of the value is the pp ammy lmk. i'd def sell one. s collars are just pricey due to not many existing anymore.

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Jan 13 2020 11:44am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 13 2020 11:25am)
Yes, they should.

having built a 24 lightning, blizz, fwall, and fball sorc. i can say fireball is the most OP in terms of dmg, and firewall is the most OP in terms of dmg mitigation and mana regen.

neither of them however are OP in terms of wins/losses. fireballer prone to ooming then having no real chance. firewaller prone to dying before it can kill the other player because dmg is low.

blizzer plays like a less powerful fissure, but with iceblast being a better dps attack than firestorm, and having tele ofc.

light sorc is just bad, mana balance is off, dmg isnt great, etc.

all of my sorcs use a +3es/+3ca warmth staff on swap as a mini-insight, still regen fairly slowly other than fwaller.

none of my sorcs use a perf set of 15-12s. i handicapped myself for testing and because im not putting 20k fg into the invs of lvl 24 sorcs.

all built with otherwise gm gear and repcaps. other than wearing shadow collars ofc.


if anyone would like to test these that doesnt already have passwords lmk, u can hop on and duel 18s and tell my your experience.

and, if anyone wants to buy a char where 90% of the value is the pp ammy lmk. i'd def sell one. s collars are just pricey due to not many existing anymore.


I used to have so many of them and never even used em lol.
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Jan 13 2020 11:46am
Quote (mike_roch @ Jan 13 2020 11:44am)
I used to have so many of them and never even used em lol.


yup they were a cheap option if u couldnt find a good 2 tab ammy with rep. so most of them expired lol

#1 24 ammy all time for sure. and u can still scrape rep from 2x rings, belt, and circ.
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Jan 13 2020 11:48am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 13 2020 11:46am)
yup they were a cheap option if u couldnt find a good 2 tab ammy with rep. so most of them expired lol

#1 24 ammy all time for sure. and u can still scrape rep from 2x rings, belt, and circ.


I think I used one on my very first FB sorc and on classic till I got a priz 2 10 fcr but They were like 50 fg back then lol.

And yeah for 24 hard to beat.

This post was edited by mike_roch on Jan 13 2020 11:48am
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