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Worth it?
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Dec 9 2019 04:48pm
Nah, might be for venom prebuff and bo. Not for bo alone.
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Quote (My_Lesson @ Dec 9 2019 10:48pm)
Nah, might be for venom prebuff and bo. Not for bo alone.


im thinking enchant + 2sk to bo + 6fade + 6 venom vs 1 shadow + 65life + 5@. sounds better right? could also go 12 fade + 12 venom + 2sk to bo vs 1shadow + 65life + 5@


anyone ny thoughts?
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Dec 9 2019 04:57pm
enchant is pretty common for ghosts to go up against dins in pubs but its clearly bm by most rules, whether cube or not- might as well be stashed
cubing bo is often seen as gm but unless you're using widow swap there's no reason to sacrifice a skiller for it

venom prebuff like chant is bm, but it can dramatically improve your venom. a ghost generally caps out around 2242 venom without prebuff on a max setup (+3 chaos, +5 rare, +2 dancers, +1 griffs), or 1805 on a less ideal build (+3 cta/spirit, none from claws/gores/valk). But with a full prebuff setup you can get up to 4305 venom which is a huge improvement. But that needs a truly ridiculous amount of swapping and hard to obtain gear (2x +3/3/10/10 claws, +3/10/10 helm, +3 ammy, 2x soj, bramble, trangs gloves, dancers- and enough strength to equip it all without enigma on)

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enchant is pretty common for ghosts to go up against dins in pubs but its clearly bm by most rules, whether cube or not- might as well be stashed
cubing bo is often seen as gm but unless you're using widow swap there's no reason to sacrifice a skiller for it

venom prebuff like chant is bm, but it can dramatically improve your venom. a ghost generally caps out around 2242 venom without prebuff on a max setup (+3 chaos, +5 rare, +2 dancers, +1 griffs), or 1805 on a less ideal build (+3 cta/spirit, none from claws/gores/valk). But with a full prebuff setup you can get up to 4305 venom which is a huge improvement. But that needs a truly ridiculous amount of swapping and hard to obtain gear (2x +3/3/10/10 claws, +3/10/10 helm, +3 ammy, 2x soj, bramble, trangs gloves, dancers- and enough strength to equip it all without enigma on)


cube in invent isn't bm
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Dec 9 2019 05:09pm
Quote (parker84 @ 9 Dec 2019 23:55)
im thinking enchant + 2sk to bo + 6fade + 6 venom vs 1 shadow + 65life + 5@. sounds better right? could also go 12 fade + 12 venom + 2sk to bo vs 1shadow + 65life + 5@


anyone ny thoughts?

You got room for rings and dual amus also.

Should be 12+1+1+1 -1-3 => +11venom and 10%psn if you go full venom prebuff with ~same life.
Going demon limb gives you chant sure but no real venom buff and again ~same life.

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You got room for rings and dual amus also.

Should be 12+1+1+1 -1-3 => +11venom and 10%psn if you go full venom prebuff with ~same life.
Going demon limb gives you chant sure but no real venom buff and again ~same life.


never used ghost but 100% see cube in invent to be worth it imo
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Dec 9 2019 05:31pm
Quote (parker84 @ Dec 9 2019 05:01pm)
cube in invent isn't bm


seen as gm, yeah.
but if you're excessively prebuffing with claws/etc in cube people are going to notice and might complain, and chant is definitely seen as bm since its a charge, unless specific realms/matchups allow it (in which case no need to cube it, just stash).
if you're only using cube for rings/ammys, you could just sacrifice 3 small charm slots, keep full skillers and swap in sojs/maras for +4 bo. But that's clearly not a good tradeoff anyway since you're losing more from the missing charms than the +% life you gain from the rings/ammy either way.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 9 2019 11:31pm)
seen as gm, yeah.
but if you're excessively prebuffing with claws/etc in cube people are going to notice and might complain, and chant is definitely seen as bm since its a charge, unless specific realms/matchups allow it (in which case no need to cube it, just stash).
if you're only using cube for rings/ammys, you could just sacrifice 3 small charm slots, keep full skillers and swap in sojs/maras for +4 bo. But that's clearly not a good tradeoff anyway since you're losing more from the missing charms than the +% life you gain from the rings/ammy either way.


enchant/precast from cube in invent is gm as far as I knew

in this case u think the cube worth it in invent?
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LMAO Cube bo :rofl:
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