Quote (thundercock @ 22 Oct 2020 16:04)

Personally, not really. I think Obama is overrated AF because he's sandwiched between Bush and Trump. I think Obama was a pretty average president but my opinion could change as time goes on. I feel like we can't adequately rate a President until 10+ years after they leave office because that's when you start to see the true ramifications of their decisions. For example, the Clinton policy of housing deregulation SEEMED good to many but it helped fuel one of the largest financial disasters in history.

Quote (thesnipa @ 22 Oct 2020 16:11)

same goes for Bush2 and how people blamed him so much for the Iraq-Afghanistan wars, but then every new book or article that comes out points to him being a guy who likely got played by intel community and Cheney to play out neocon fantasies and "finish the job" they failed to do under Bush1. I honestly think with a time machine Bush2 undoes most of what he did after 9-11, but still lets New Orleans take a bath because fuck dirty cajuns and etc.

Quote (excellence @ 22 Oct 2020 22:14)

Obama will be viewed favorably despite the ridiculous acceleration of the ‘patriot act’ under his administration

Clinton is just lol everything he did ended up being a disaster but he was in charge when the internet took off so he gets lucky. Maybe if he spent less time chasing interns but whatever

GWB will move out of the bottom quarter eventually because he’s buddies with the Obamas. How sad is it that the lefties love him now more than the righties and independents do lmao

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 22 2020 03:35pm)

Hey hey, GWB might have started wars which killed hundreds of thousands and started state-sanctioned torture camps, but at least he didnt say means things to biased af journalists!!!11
That's what lefties these days call "decency". Par for the course.

Quote (excellence @ Oct 22 2020 01:14pm)

Obama will be viewed favorably despite the ridiculous acceleration of the ‘patriot act’ under his administration

Clinton is just lol everything he did ended up being a disaster but he was in charge when the internet took off so he gets lucky. Maybe if he spent less time chasing interns but whatever

GWB will move out of the bottom quarter eventually because he’s buddies with the Obamas. How sad is it that the lefties love him now more than the righties and independents do lmao

Quote (thesnipa @ 22 Oct 2020 22:36)

This all assumes GWB knew wtf was even going on lol.

Quote (inkanddagger @ 22 Oct 2020 16:38)

“Lefties” who love Bush and Obama are righties.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 22 2020 01:35pm)

Hey hey, GWB might have started wars which killed hundreds of thousands and erected state-sanctioned torture camps, but at least he didnt say means things to biased af journalists!!!11
That's what lefties these days call "decency". Par for the course.

Quote (thundercock @ 22 Oct 2020 22:47)

I'm sorry, but why was this a bad thing?

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 22 2020 03:40pm)

Wouldnt it make things even worse if all of that happened under his watch without him even noticing? Like... it would make the judgement of GWB, the individual person, less harsh - but it would reflect even more badly on his presidency.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 22 2020 01:49pm)