Quote (IceMage @ Jan 26 2020 10:15am)
How embarrassing. Pompeo acts like a childish fool by cursing at a reporter and then pulling out a map to quiz her. Then he goes on to blatantly lie that this reporter, who has been covering national security and foreign affairs for over 20 years, and has a masters degree in European Studies from Cambridge, can't find Ukraine on a map?
Jonah Goldberg made this point a while ago. You see virtue signaling from the left, but in many cases the opposite is true on the right. It's vice signaling. Acting like an impetuous, childish prick gets the rubes to stand up and cheer. Deplorable is no longer an ironic term of endearment... it's the way you act to signal that you're fighting the good fight.
Do you think Mike Pompeo just up and decided to pick a fight with Mary Louise Kelly out of the blue?
You can listen to the taped part of the interview yourself, its clear that Pompeo was aggrieved and thought something was wrong the moment she started talking about Ukraine. It was like watching Ron Paul on Bruno.
They had six and a half minutes of a cordial interview about Iran where Pompeo stuck to a script and was well rehearsed and respectful, and then suddenly we got;
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Change of subject. Ukraine. Do you owe Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch an apology?
You know, I agreed to come on your show today to talk about Iran. That's what I intend to do. I know what our Ukraine policy has been now for the three years of this administration. I'm proud of the work we've done. This administration delivered the capability for the Ukrainians to defend themselves. President Obama showed up with MREs (meals ready to eat.) We showed up with Javelin missiles. The previous administration did nothing to take down corruption in Ukraine. We're working hard on that. We're going to continue to do it.
I confirmed with your staff [crosstalk] last night that I would talk about Iran and Ukraine.
I just don't have anything else to say about that this morning.
I just want to give you another opportunity to answer this, because as you know, people who work for you in your department, people who have resigned from this department under your leadership, saying you should stand up for the diplomats who work here. [crosstalk]
I don't know who these unnamed sources are you're referring to. I can tell you this, when I talked to my team here --
Clearly something broke down, because Kelly claims she had confirmed they were going to talk about Ukraine, but Pompeo seems adamant that they weren't going to talk about Ukraine.
Now, someone or multiple people could have borked the communication on either end of that process. It could have been Pompeo's staff, it could have been NPRs
But at that point the interview broke down into being a hostile ambush, with Kelly springing impeachment-related questions on him he clearly wasn't ready to answer, and it devolved into him just showing her the door with a forced civility clearly bristling with indignation;
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Can you point me toward your remarks where you have defended Marie Yovanovitch?
I've said all I'm going to say today. Thank you. Thanks for the repeated opportunity to do so. I appreciate that.
One further question on this.
I'm not going to — I appreciate that. I appreciate that you want to continue to talk about this. I agreed to come on your show today to talk about Iran.
After that interview, Pompeo chewed her out in what he claims was an off-the-record interview afterwards. There doesn't seem to be that much room for a misunderstanding here. Any journalist and politician knows the difference, and when Pompeo switched from forced civility to venting about the ambush, it was clearly with an off-the-record understanding. The fact that Kelly chose to report on that aspect of their conversation is a clear breach in journalistic ethics. That's not some misunderstanding, that's not two-sided. If journalists try to run some technical word game gripe of "We said 'mayhaps' off the record", it violates any trust between the administration and respectable media 'covering national security and foreign affairs for over 20 years'
Now, could this have been Pompeo's team screwing up, followed by NPR breaching trust? Or was NPR in the wrong on both accounts? Or was it some mutual misunderstanding? I don't know, they've buried the original gripe with the followup. When Pompeo issued his statement haranguing her and then followed up with that gratuitous "Bangladesh" jab, I'm inclined to believe he was just bullshitting. Probably lying, feeling justified as a response to her lie. Making it a he-said-she-said about where she pointed on the map. And whether or not NPR was responsible for the first one or two breaches, Pompeo was almost certainly responsible for that bullshit.
But looking at who escalated this encounter, there were clear off-ramps. Kelly is an experienced journalist, she should have recognized instantly that there was some miscommunication regarding talking about Ukraine. She chose to press that issue, repeatedly, to the point that Pompeo walked out on her. Just listen to the long pause after he first shuts down the Ukraine question. They sit there for like 5 seconds, then she chooses to come right back to him and ask more and more Ukraine questions. Whatever she thought her interview was about originally, Pompeo's indignation was unmistakable. And once he chewed her out for it, she could have chosen to just leave it there and respect the off-the-record agreement. Instead she violated that too. And your gripe is with Pompeo being impetuous about her pointing out Ukraine on a map?
This post was edited by Goomshill on Jan 26 2020 11:08am