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#1 Jul 22 2019 10:46pm
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Regarding your contradiction, it's not a contradiction. THOU shall not make GRAVEN images. First, it only applies to us, it doesn't apply to G-d in the first place, so He is free to make all the images of Himself he wants. Second, it applies to graven images, ie an idol. Human beings are not idols meant to be worshipped. (Christians may disagree...) If we are in the image of G-d, then every time we have a baby we are making an image of G-d, which would be a violation of that. Except that it isn't, because it only applies to graven images, idols, it doesn't apply to creating a living "image" of G-d.
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#2 Jul 24 2019 03:39pm
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C'est contradictoire de nous interdire de tailler des images de Dieu, alors qu'il y en a partout des images de Dieu. Et puisque Dieu nous a fait à son image, alors sculpter un corps humain devrait être interdit. Mais ce n'est pas le cas.
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#3 Jul 24 2019 09:59pm
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Quote (Chevaucheur @ Jul 24 2019 05:39pm)
C'est contradictoire de nous interdire de tailler des images de Dieu, alors qu'il y en a partout des images de Dieu. Et puisque Dieu nous a fait à son image, alors sculpter un corps humain devrait être interdit. Mais ce n'est pas le cas.


hypocritical, perhaps, but not contradictory. a better question would be that there were two keruvim on the cover of the ark. that would be a violation of making images of what is in the heavens. the answer is that there is more to this commandment than just not making images, per the english translation. or really, even the hebrew. but the intent behind it, is to not make, or worship IDOLS. a literalist would say as you say, that its forbidden to take a picture of a person as you are making an image of an image of G-d. although thats not a direct image of G-d, and could therefore possibly be ok, even to a literalist. but the real reason is that the prohibition only applies to making idols, something that is intended to be worshipped. a picture of a person is not intended to be worshipped, so its not a violation. (although if it were, say, a cult taking a picture of their leader for the purposes of worshipping him, that WOULD be a violation and would be prohibited.) the same thing for the keruvim, they were not intended to be worshipped, so its not a violation of the commandment against making idols. its idols specifically that are prohibited, not just any image.
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#4 Jul 25 2019 12:16am
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#5 Jul 28 2019 01:49am
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#6 Jul 28 2019 03:27am
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