Well, i use ghost glaive which is base +20 wsm
And i use Lacherator which is base - 10 wsm and adds 30ias.

I put ghost glaive over glovess, and Lacherator over boots.
Then i flash/lift the ghost glaive such that its placed last, making Lacherator main wep(ergo gaining ias) and that also activate wsm bug.

-10 + 20 / 2 = 5 avg

5 + (-10 - +20) = - 25 wsm. (almost as fast as an faceblade)

Ergo i need 75 eq ias for 6,25 aps.

If the quanti becomes 0 they get red but still repl, if ur able to throw 1 more they dissapeare, but luckely the double throw skill dont work with 0 quanti at one of the weps, so you dont loose.

The problem for throw baba is that it spends all his javs to fast xD
Ghost glaive is only 75quanti, with increase stats they can be 195.
I got 2 rare eth, 1 Even got kb. And they are both 4xx ed and have over 700 max dmg xD in pvm i would go for the 50% ds knife with pierce + Lacherator, u can wsm bug them a little, but not much, however knife is - 20. Razortail is a good choice.

Cb is 1/20 on boss when ranged i think, it can be used for ubers and such i guess, other than that i would not focus on cb. Gores are still Nice, Wts works good as well. DNO which are best, i use Gores myself for pvp, but with rare javs u miss ds%. Hl + Gores + crit from masteries only.

But ofc, when amp the cb is way more.

This post was edited by gel87 on Apr 19 2019 04:32am

Im actually not sure.

But if this is correct you need little gear ias if ur using eth warshrike + eth lacherator as endgame.

Because:
(-20 + -10) / 2 = -15avg
-15 + (-10 + -20) = -45 bugged wsm speed.
Warshrike also adds 30wep ias.


In that case you can get:
7,14 attacks pr sec. i think with 65ias (20 LOH, 20HL, minimum of 25 from helm forexample, you want razor tail pierce, before forti/eni strealth + sigons + another 10ias source is nice) from gear. it needs to be checked out ofc. I can do that on asgard when i get home ;d Is a nice pierce setup vs ele druids for pvp at least xD With bb it should be: 83% chance to pierce on knife and 33% on lacherator + 7,14 attacks pr sec, even thought dmg will be 1/3 of what its now it will hit way better and faster.

WIth faith merc its 100% chance to reach that frame.

This post was edited by gel87 on Apr 19 2019 09:04am

I’ve always thought about doing a throw barb so I’ll live vicariously through you!

Good luck!

Thanks for the input guys - bit knackered right now so will read the WSM stuff tomorrow, haha.



Aha, thank you



First horked unique.

Had to go find something with PMH for Lister pack, took aaaages


So did this!




This post was edited by Mukhalif on Apr 19 2019 04:27pm

Just before we hit NM, time to try this eth imbue idea...

NM Den. Quite nice, need some resists!


Badabing badaboom.


Shopping for a pair of these before Blood Raven

And some of these from Gheed. Don't think I can shop hurlbats yet, wanna try out an exceptional craft as my damage is starting to suck big time!


Funny thing is, still higher damage than my current weapon selection


Took a while. Think my AR sucks...? 68% chance to hit Blood Raven, don't remember her being that slippery.


That's where I'm at for now. Something tells me this is gonna get slowwww...

Cheers y'all!

You're a machine mate! I'm really enjoying this wt. Gl going forward... and be careful!

I love this walktrue

Some general hints:
Winged axe(elite version) and Hurlbat (exceptional version) are wsm -10
Flying axes(elite version) and franscisca (exceptional version) are wsm +10

Winged knife(elite version) and war dart (exceptional version) are wsm -20
Flying knife(elite version) and battle dart (exceptional versions) are wsm 0

Winged harpoon (elite version) and harpoon(exceptional versison) are wsm -10
Hyperion javelin (elite) and War Javelins(exceptional) are wsm -10
Stygian pilum(elite) and great pilum(exceptional) are wsm 0
Barlog Spear(elite) and Simbilan(exceptional) are wsm +10
Ghost Glaive(elite) and Spiculum(exceptional) are wsm +20

1. The slower bases will always have much higher dmg than the faster bases(if same quality ofc), thats why with wsm bug you can optimize ur DPS rather massive with this bug. (autowsm was removed in last patch, so if ur 1.13c like most plugin users autowsm works)
2. Auto wsm = ur fast wep gives the required str or dex to carry the slow wep = you wont loose the bug if switching wep set to bo/tele side forexample, it will activate automaticly.
3. Wsm bug = Put fast base on boot side, put slow base on glove side, lift the slow wep and place it back at same spot(glove side) such that slow wep is placed last, and makes fast wep main + avg out the wsm speed between them and activates the bug.
* Wsm bug is lost if u switch wep set for bo, it might be deactivated if taking on/off str/dex giving items, and it might be deactivated if ng, but not sure about last.
* Wsm bug formula:
RW = Base speed right wep (above the boots)
LW = Base speed left wep (above the gloves)
---
(( [RW] + [LW] ) / 2 ) + ( [RW] - [LW] )
- Example 1: Ghost glaive (+20 wsm) and Winged axe (-10 wsm) = ((-10 + 20)/2) + (-10 - 20) = -25 wsm after bug
- Example 2: Winged knife(-20 wsm) and Winged axe (-10 wsm) = ((-20+ -10)/2) + (-20 - -10) = -25 wsm after bug (i calculated this wrong in earlier post)

as you can see, the furter away from eachother the speeds are the more benefitial wsm bug is, and the more dmg you can have on the slow one(normally)
4. Range with wsm bug: If you hit correct breakpoints you throw the slow animation. Meaning: If you hit 6,25 attacks pr sec with forexample Ghost glaive + winged axe with 75ias+ then you actually throw the range of ghost glaive which is double or triple the range of axes... But if im heavely slowed it will start throwing the axe animation with less range or 1 of each
5. Javelins got the least number of quanti, axes second least and knifes most. There is also difference between the internal types, but this is a general rule.

This post was edited by gel87 on Apr 20 2019 04:01am