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Dec 4 2018 01:32pm
apologies for spelling and grammar issues. Im writing this on a small screen lol

Make sure you research your compatibility too.
Systems verified with manufactures testing.
For evga check here https://www.evga.com/support/motherboard/

My memory doesn't say its supported but the 4gb sticks were, so it should work.
CMK16GX4M1B3000C15 is mine while the verified is CMK16GX4MB3000C15

CMK16GX4M1B3000C15 - 16gb
CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 - 8 gb
CMK16GX4M4B3000C15 - 4 gb

With proper research in compatibility reduces errors.
Manufacture testing and development platforms dramatically reduce probability of errors.
Typically now days the compatibility are more widely developed with large support groups.
With new tech its safer to research before hand to ensure comparability.
Especially while overclocking, compatibility development is much more important.
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Dec 4 2018 02:56pm
Quote (kcd-clan @ Dec 4 2018 02:53pm)
Don't get a used gpu. Now days the used ones are possible used for gpu computing. Overclocking 24/7 operations can result in not so good shape.
Most computer parts I would not recommend getting used. I've done it before and isnt bad. Im just saying not recommended.
If a used system is purchased then buy a new gpu at the least. ( see benchmark link to find a good deal below)
threadripper are not bad but not so much for longterm. Life expectancy of intel are expected to be greater. That is why they typically cost more.

be smart do your research and plan ahead going with 2066
GPU for gaming ( can always be upgraded) spending less on this now isnt a bad idea if you have to. You can always upgrade the gpu.
The harddrive isnt very important. You can always get a disk drive now and upgrade to ssd later.
The CPU and motherboard lifespan are based on socket type. I speculate the LGA 1151 will not be supported for to much longer.(even though they are some of the current top bench-marking cpus) This is why I am moving to 2066. If uyou can afford a 2066 build then absolutely do that.
I will get myself a low end cpu for now and upgrade next year.
The most important thing is the motherboard. This is what will determine how much and how long upgrades can be made.
Currently the most recent socket type for intel is the lga2066. I would expect top bench-marking for approximately 4 years on them.

Here are benchmark stats if you are unaware of them. GPU and CPU listed.
[URL=https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html]https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html[/URL]
[URL=https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html]https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html[/URL]

a solid affordable high end 1151 system can be build.
Keep in mind that $1000 spend on 1151 cpu and motherboard will not turn out in 5 years. The system will likely be outdated with limited cpu upgrade potential.
I personally thing they will still be solid systems but after 6 years or so they will not be mid performance systems.
While the 2066 systems will still be manufactured or at the near end of there lifespans depending on evolution of systems and tech.
I dont think any of us could predict the future evolution of tech ( it can be a wild thing) but 2066 are newest and will stand for a while unless something wild is invented.

There are many limitations that impact the progress of cpu development.
Here is some insite about intels design and architecture.
Skylake, Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake are the current architectures for consumers.
Upcoming architecture is Whiskey Lake and Ice Lake.

[URL=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Lake_(microarchitecture)]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Lake_(microarchitecture)[/URL]
[URL=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Lake_(microarchitecture)]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Lake_(microarchitecture)[/URL]
[URL=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_Lake]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_Lake[/URL]
[URL=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake_(microarchitecture)]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake_(microarchitecture)[/URL]
[URL=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake[/URL]


most gpu's used for computing are undervolted though
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Dec 4 2018 05:04pm
Quote (kcd-clan @ Dec 4 2018 11:53am)
Don't get a used gpu. Now days the used ones are possible used for gpu computing. Overclocking 24/7 operations can result in not so good shape.
Most computer parts I would not recommend getting used. I've done it before and isnt bad. Im just saying not recommended.
If a used system is purchased then buy a new gpu at the least. ( see benchmark link to find a good deal below)
threadripper are not bad but not so much for longterm. Life expectancy of intel are expected to be greater. That is why they typically cost more.

be smart do your research and plan ahead going with 2066
GPU for gaming ( can always be upgraded) spending less on this now isnt a bad idea if you have to. You can always upgrade the gpu.
The harddrive isnt very important. You can always get a disk drive now and upgrade to ssd later.
The CPU and motherboard lifespan are based on socket type. I speculate the LGA 1151 will not be supported for to much longer.(even though they are some of the current top bench-marking cpus) This is why I am moving to 2066. If uyou can afford a 2066 build then absolutely do that.
I will get myself a low end cpu for now and upgrade next year.
The most important thing is the motherboard. This is what will determine how much and how long upgrades can be made.
Currently the most recent socket type for intel is the lga2066. I would expect top bench-marking for approximately 4 years on them.

Here are benchmark stats if you are unaware of them. GPU and CPU listed.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

a solid affordable high end 1151 system can be build.
Keep in mind that $1000 spend on 1151 cpu and motherboard will not turn out in 5 years. The system will likely be outdated with limited cpu upgrade potential.
I personally thing they will still be solid systems but after 6 years or so they will not be mid performance systems.
While the 2066 systems will still be manufactured or at the near end of there lifespans depending on evolution of systems and tech.
I dont think any of us could predict the future evolution of tech ( it can be a wild thing) but 2066 are newest and will stand for a while unless something wild is invented.

There are many limitations that impact the progress of cpu development.
Here is some insite about intels design and architecture.
Skylake, Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake are the current architectures for consumers.
Upcoming architecture is Whiskey Lake and Ice Lake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Lake_(microarchitecture)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Lake_(microarchitecture)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_Lake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylake_(microarchitecture)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake


wrote a book of bad info
used 1080ti is by far the best
gpu option today
hedt and threadripper are shit for gaming
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Dec 4 2018 06:01pm
So if I find a decent 1080ti used get it. Got it
Always thought used gpu were super hit and miss.
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Dec 4 2018 07:09pm
Quote (urbanshaft @ Dec 3 2018 11:38pm)
so someone find this guy
a used 1080ti
then we can build rest of pc
from that


Bidding on stuff atm. Will get one and bump this around boxing day.
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Dec 4 2018 07:17pm
I mean 1080ti under 500
Or pay 800 plus for new 2070
Its not worth it
8700k or 9700k and boom
Max the world on 1440
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Dec 5 2018 04:16am
Can't find a 1080ti used for under 700 which is the price of a 2070.decided gonna just buy a decent brand 2080 for around 1100 and go with a 8700 .
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Dec 5 2018 04:47am
damnit dont do it
6 cores is so 2010
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Dec 5 2018 04:58am
Quote (urbanshaft @ Dec 4 2018 07:04pm)
wrote a book of bad info
used 1080ti is by far the best
gpu option today
hedt and threadripper are shit for gaming


shaft somehow right again, most 1080 ti's that were used for mining were undervolted and are not on death's door. Mining practices matured and $/Watt was the big meme for Ethereum, to the benefit of used buyers now. It's a far cry from the 7970 bitcoin days where huge farms would be running in poorly cooled rooms at 105c 24/7. The cards are also better designed now which helps, they don't just let themselves fry either way.
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Dec 5 2018 05:14am
my face when this guy
thinks he has
more it knowledge than me
cuz im bald
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