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Oct 28 2018 08:59am
Quote (dark_bread @ Oct 19 2018 01:14pm)
Or chars that normally shouldn't have def get rediculous stack from extra def and it makes them almost impossible to hit. Either way ;)


just read what attila wrote... you can't get ridicolous def stacks on chars like druid because you miss the crazy skill based multipliers that chars like barbs and palas have. so great lets say you have massive extra deff on druid so you get like 5kdeff instead of 3k. doesnt do shit... melees will still slice through you like butter
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Oct 28 2018 09:17am
Quote (m4o @ Oct 28 2018 09:59am)
just read what attila wrote... you can't get ridicolous def stacks on chars like druid because you miss the crazy skill based multipliers that chars like barbs and palas have. so great lets say you have massive extra deff on druid so you get like 5kdeff instead of 3k. doesnt do shit... melees will still slice through you like butter


Fort gives you lvl 15 chilling armor. That's 115% bonus to defense. To me an extra 6-700 defense plus the defense Bonus is more usefull than a shitty 30/60/9/9 but hey we can't all agree on everything right guys
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Oct 29 2018 01:52am
Quote (dark_bread @ 28 Oct 2018 17:17)
Fort gives you lvl 15 chilling armor. That's 115% bonus to defense. To me an extra 6-700 defense plus the defense Bonus is more usefull than a shitty 30/60/9/9 but hey we can't all agree on everything right guys


correct, we can't agree on everything but 700 more def won't change anything against any character that will try to hit you with ar check.
on the other hand 30% ed 60 ar 9 str 9 dex is something i'd take from a single sox on a melee char 24/7
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Oct 29 2018 03:51am
Quote (attila @ Oct 29 2018 02:52am)
correct, we can't agree on everything but 700 more def won't change anything against any character that will try to hit you with ar check.
on the other hand 30% ed 60 ar 9 str 9 dex is something i'd take from a single sox on a melee char 24/7


Your not good at reading are you
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Oct 29 2018 03:53am
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To me an extra 6-700 defense plus the defense Bonus is more usefull than a shitty 30/60/9/9 but hey we can't all agree on everything right guys


I just said that the def bonus will not make any difference while the 30/60/9/9 is a huge boost. not a matter of opinion it's just a fact.
you're not good at understanding are you
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Oct 29 2018 03:57am
Quote (attila @ Oct 29 2018 04:53am)
I just said that the def bonus will not make any difference while the 30/60/9/9 is a huge boost. not a matter of opinion it's just a fact.
you're not good at understanding are you


So defense makes no difference? I'm 100% sure when that armor casts from fort things change in a melee duel Everytime. Insinuating that defence does make a difference. It definitely definitely does make a difference and if you think otherwise that's great news for me, your Easy pickins in the duel room



Wait wait I figured it out.... You use grief

This post was edited by dark_bread on Oct 29 2018 04:00am
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Quote (dark_bread @ 29 Oct 2018 11:57)
So defense makes no difference? I'm 100% sure when that armor casts from fort things change in a melee duel Everytime. Insinuating that defence does make a difference. It definitely definitely does make a difference and if you think otherwise that's great news for me, your Easy pickins in the duel room


ok i'll try to explain it easier, as everyone got it except you.
defence make huge difference when you have huge difference in defence.

your armor will most likely count against bvc/charger/melee dru/zealer

the worst between these character will have at least 18k+ ar
a melee dru that doesn't rely on defense would have let's say 4k def
a melee dru full focused on defense would have let's say 8k def

do you think any of the above character will notice difference while slicing through you?

spoiler: answer is no, go focus on something that isn't def on a character that isn't a pala or baba

edit: i'd love to wager duel your defense dru against my barb. your 302 fg against 660 from me.

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Quote (attila @ Oct 29 2018 05:02am)
ok i'll try to explain it easier, as everyone got it except you.
defence make huge difference when you have huge difference in defence.

your armor will most likely count against bvc/charger/melee dru/zealer

the worst between these character will have at least 18k+ ar
a melee dru that doesn't rely on defense would have let's say 4k def
a melee dru full focused on defense would have let's say 8k def

do you think any of the above character will notice difference while slicing through you?

spoiler: answer is no, go focus on something that isn't def on a character that isn't a pala or baba

edit: i'd love to wager duel your defense dru against my barb. your 302 fg against 660 from me.


Your a retarded dude. I said I want to see a 200ed erep pelt. The only difference is 700 defence(1400+ after bonus) for a 30-60-9-9 because you cannot get 2 O's with 200 Ed. I'm not talking about stacking defnece I'm talking about being Superior to the majority. You obv cannot stack the shit out of defence on a druid. But you can have a fuckload more than everyone else, knowing that noone has a pelt with 700 defence, and be Superior in a melee duel.

I do not have a druid ATM for 90% of my gears and chars are gone but if you'd like to lose in a duel I will be on after work. 4-5 et.
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Quote (dark_bread @ 29 Oct 2018 14:31)
Your a retarded dude. I said I want to see a 200ed erep pelt. The only difference is 700 defence(1400+ after bonus) for a 30-60-9-9 because you cannot get 2 O's with 200 Ed. I'm not talking about stacking defnece I'm talking about being Superior to the majority. You obv cannot stack the shit out of defence on a druid. But you can have a fuckload more than everyone else, knowing that noone has a pelt with 700 defence, and be Superior in a melee duel.

I do not have a druid ATM for 90% of my gears and chars are gone but if you'd like to lose in a duel I will be on after work. 4-5 et.


Quote (dark_bread @ 19 Oct 2018 14:14)
Or chars that normally shouldn't have def get rediculous stack from extra def and it makes them almost impossible to hit. Either way ;)


dark_bread is confused! He hurt himself in his confusion!

But you can have a fuckload more than everyone else, knowing that noone has a pelt with 700 defence, and be Superior in a melee duel --> still you do not understand that it won't make any difference? and you call other people retard smh

This post was edited by attila on Oct 29 2018 06:54am
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