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Oct 15 2018 03:52pm
Hi fam,

Just got back to playing after 8 years off. I was hoping to make something different then the standard cookie cutter builds. I remember having a ton of fun in the early days playing as a frozen orb sorce. That was my favorite by far. I was hoping to make another one but this time I was hoping to add TS and Energy shield into the equations. Please let me know what you think about this build:

20 forb
20 icib bolt (forb synergy)
4 in cold Master (I will have +20 in items/annit/torch/cta) and I will almost always have - enemy cold resist
20 TS (or possible Nova)
20 Lightning mastery
1 teleport
16 telekenisis (making energy shield 1 to 1 ratio)
get ES and Shiver Armor from memory staff or staff CTA.

Act 1 or 5 merc... tired of act 2 merc.

What do you guys think?
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Oct 15 2018 04:52pm
With your gear and infy on merc Orb/Nova is perfectly viable. Might struggle in solo players 5+ games though.
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Oct 15 2018 05:05pm
Do I need an infinity merc?
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Oct 15 2018 05:11pm
I wouldn't suggest energy shield for pvm. But if you choose so, get 20 into Telekinesis. The last 4 points are the most beneficial...

Quote (Maker87 @ Oct 16 2018 12:05am)
Do I need an infinity merc?


Of course, this would double your damage.

Quote (Maker87 @ Oct 15 2018 10:52pm)
Hi fam,

Just got back to playing after 8 years off. I was hoping to make something different then the standard cookie cutter builds. (...)


In my opinion, just make a frozen orb/fireball hybrid, it's the best sorceress for various pvm purpose.
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Oct 15 2018 05:55pm
energy shield is extremely bad in pvm. don't bother.
TS is completely worthless post v1.09 pvm
if you go with infinity merc, there's no point in playing anything other than a light sorc. everything else is far worse.
a1 merc is bad for a sorc.
a2>a5>a1

if you truly want a dual element, max orb, -100% CM with +skills, rest in your 2nd element.
firewall, fireball/meteor + synergies or cl + synergies are all great dual element sorc builds.
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Oct 15 2018 05:58pm
Lightning is so much better
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Oct 15 2018 06:56pm
I'm seeing that ES is really bad in PVM but I'm not sure why that's the case. I have a single point in it just for survivability purposes (no points invested in energy though). Does anyone care to explain why it's bad?
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Quote (GrayFoxMGS @ Oct 15 2018 07:56pm)
I'm seeing that ES is really bad in PVM but I'm not sure why that's the case. I have a single point in it just for survivability purposes (no points invested in energy though). Does anyone care to explain why it's bad?


I would like to know this as well.
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Quote (GrayFoxMGS @ Oct 15 2018 07:56pm)
I'm seeing that ES is really bad in PVM but I'm not sure why that's the case. I have a single point in it just for survivability purposes (no points invested in energy though). Does anyone care to explain why it's bad?


Quote (tehtwitchy @ Oct 15 2018 06:55pm)
energy shield is extremely bad in pvm. don't bother.
TS is completely worthless post v1.09 pvm
if you go with infinity merc, there's no point in playing anything other than a light sorc. everything else is far worse.
a1 merc is bad for a sorc.
a2>a5>a1

if you truly want a dual element, max orb, -100% CM with +skills, rest in your 2nd element.
firewall, fireball/meteor + synergies or cl + synergies are all great dual element sorc builds.


Thx for everyone's input.
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Oct 16 2018 12:29am
Quote (GrayFoxMGS @ Oct 16 2018 01:56am)
I'm seeing that ES is really bad in PVM but I'm not sure why that's the case. I have a single point in it just for survivability purposes (no points invested in energy though). Does anyone care to explain why it's bad?


Because mana burn is broken since 1.10. Mana burn should drain mana based on melee damage x4, but at the moment melee monsters drain mana based on their damage x256 (so they will always drain your full mana).

Also, since 1.10 ES is applied before resists, my opinion is that a vita sorc with good resists and DR is much more viable.

This post was edited by -joey- on Oct 16 2018 12:31am
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