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Aug 13 2018 12:28pm
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MORE population is not good for ANY reason.



yep, too much damn people as is.

We need people to live less and die quicker. But it's not happening fast enough with the current population control of vaccines and gmo food.
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Aug 13 2018 12:36pm
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Civilizations below replacement rates collapse. When you have children you have a stake in the future and in making the future a good place. People without children are basically hedonists who disconnect themselves from a 1.4 billion year old tradition and the idea that you could be making the future worse doesn't even occur to them.



you mean negative growth ? this is not what i am talking about, but i would agree that immigration is probably necessary if we can't even replace ourselves
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Aug 13 2018 12:39pm
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Immigration only causes evil.

Just look what the white immigrants to the Americas did to this land in just a few hundred years. Almost completely wiped the people who have a historical claim to this land off the face of the planet. If whites let other immigrants keep coming here, they'll face the same sort of near extinction event as Amerindians.



Well the earth doesn't need humans at all anyway, if you go in this state of mind.

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Aug 13 2018 12:46pm
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you mean negative growth ? this is not what i am talking about, but i would agree that immigration is probably necessary if we can't even replace ourselves


-No, I mean a replacement rate of 2.2, and below which a civilization collapses
-I know
-Immigration is not the same as US-birthed citizens. Statistics will always prove this even if Democrats sputter it on the daily
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-No, I mean a replacement rate of 2.2, and below which a civilization collapses
-I know
-Immigration is not the same as US-birthed citizens. Statistics will always prove this even if Democrats sputter it on the daily



do you have an exemple where a civilisation collapsed with a below 2,2 rate ? they get assimilated per another civilisation ? is what you worry about ?

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Aug 13 2018 01:00pm
It's mainly because we need to fund retirement accounts
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Because there's hundreds of billions of baby boomer who won't be able to take care of themselves so we need young people working to pay taxes to pay into government entitlements systems.

Basically the baby boomer generation is the most selfish generation and they have taken their children and their children's children they're holding them up by their ankles and shaking all the money out of their pockets.

In sociology we used to have things called population pyramids because there were more young people than they were old people and the population graph if you made a shape would look like a pyramid or a triangle.
However Baby Boomers are very very selfish and they didn't have very many kids because they like to have stuff instead and kids are expensive. Because of this we do not have a population pyramid we are having a population block or Square.

Unless we get population from elsewhere we are swiftly becoming a geriatric country. Once we are geriatric it will be harder to make things it will be harder to win Wars it will be harder to do anything.

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Because there's hundreds of billions of baby boomer who won't be able to take care of themselves so we need young people working to pay taxes to pay into government entitlements systems.

Basically the baby boomer generation is the most selfish generation and they have taken their children and their children's children they're holding them up by their ankles and shaking all the money out of their pockets.

And sociology we used to have things called population pyramids because there were more young people than they were old people and the population graph if you made a shape would look like a pyramid or a triangle.
However Baby Boomers are very very selfish and they didn't have very many kids because they like to have stuff instead and kids are expensive. Because of this we do not have a population pyramid we are having a population block or Square.

Unless we get population from elsewhere we are swiftly becoming a geriatric country. Once we are geriatric it will be harder to make things it will be harder to win Wars it will be harder to do anything.



Cue Democrat talking point about importing more Democrat voters
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Because there's hundreds of billions of baby boomer who won't be able to take care of themselves so we need young people working to pay taxes to pay into government entitlements systems.

Basically the baby boomer generation is the most selfish generation and they have taken their children and their children's children they're holding them up by their ankles and shaking all the money out of their pockets.

And sociology we used to have things called population pyramids because there were more young people than they were old people and the population graph if you made a shape would look like a pyramid or a triangle.
However Baby Boomers are very very selfish and they didn't have very many kids because they like to have stuff instead and kids are expensive. Because of this we do not have a population pyramid we are having a population block or Square.

Unless we get population from elsewhere we are swiftly becoming a geriatric country. Once we are geriatric it will be harder to make things it will be harder to win Wars it will be harder to do anything.


Don't worry. Were quickly approaching the average life expectancy.

They will start dying off in droves and most of our problems will be replaced by other problems.
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