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Aug 13 2018 01:41am
This properly have been debated like a gazillion amount of times, but I still can't seem to find a concluding answer anywhere.

In short; which Javelin is best against the hordes of Hell - Titans or Thunderstrokes?

In my own humble opinion i tend to lean towards Titans, but a lot of people on this forum, seems to say otherwise. Maybe it just depends on where you actually farm (chaos, baal, etc)? Maybe they are basically equal in strength, and its just a matter of preference?

My basis for testing is Eth Titans 194%ed and Thunderstrokes 4/200.

Current gear:
Griffon (15/40)
Enigma
HL
JMOD (20/20)
Raven / SOJ
Razortail
WT
3/20 gloves

CTA
Phoenix monarch

7x java skillers
Torch
Anni
SC's
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Aug 13 2018 01:51am
Titans for frw and recharging
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Aug 13 2018 01:55am
Quote (wupa @ Aug 13 2018 08:51am)
Titans for frw and recharging


I too can read the item description.

In what direction does that affect your gameplay? Why does it matter over the e.g. improved light res negation that Thunderstrokes offer? Arguments bro, arguments.
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Aug 13 2018 04:15am
1/3 replenish time titans, wouldnt even think twice
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Aug 13 2018 04:57am
4/40 self rep >
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Aug 13 2018 05:20am
Quote (yosimitshu @ Aug 13 2018 12:57pm)
4/40 self rep >



they replenish at what speed 1/10, 1/20?

seems too low for me, even with increased stack size

i prefer infinte fury and nn to hassle with my weapon, should i throw or not ...
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Aug 13 2018 05:56am
for pure baalruns 6/40 should be bis
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Aug 13 2018 07:42am
to sum it up

java cs / general pvm perfect non eth / non upped titans for infinite fury or two perf eth upped titans (you have to switch them in stash)

java pure baalrun 6/40

java pvp here those 4/40 self rep should shine
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Aug 13 2018 07:53am
Thunderstroke

  • More Damage


Titan's Revenge

  • Quality of Life due to auto refill & FRW
  • lower requirements equals more life
  • boosts support skills
  • Str & Dex means morelLife


Damage vs Nice to have(s)

Only hunting bosses with Enigma or tele bitch?
Thunderstroke.

Walking or clearing areas?
Titan's Revenge.
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Aug 13 2018 07:27pm
Quote (Larry777 @ Aug 13 2018 10:42pm)
to sum it up

java cs / general pvm perfect non eth / non upped titans for infinite fury or two perf eth upped titans (you have to switch them in stash)

java pure baalrun 6/40

java pvp here those 4/40 self rep should shine



Why would perfect non upped titans be better than the upped version for general pvm?
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