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Quote (Ghot @ Apr 23 2018 11:38pm)
It probably seems like rocket science...

...but if your idle temps (easy for anyone to check) are too high, your load temp will also be too high.



Don't feel bad though, you'll figure it out one day. :)


no they wont its not linear and high ambient temps does not mean high load

so my idle temps of 40 degrees should be fine or not fine on hot summer day at load

how about 28 degrees

you are also implying that my 5.2ghz profile(still working on lowering the VOLTAGE) should be fine cause its idleS AT 28 which hit 82 plus depending on stresser

too many viariables
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no they wont its not linear and high ambient temps does not mean high load

so my idle temps of 40 degrees should be fine or not fine on hot summer day at load

how about 28 degrees
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Vouch. In the summer my idle can be up to 38c, while in the winter will be 28-30c.

Pretty much the same no matter what the core clock and voltage is.
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Vouch. In the summer my idle can be up to 38c, while in the winter will be 28-30c.

Pretty much the same no matter what the core clock and voltage is.


idle temps mean you pretty much have nice mount on heatsink/block

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Idle temps are easy to check. And even though it may not be linear, it's still a good indicator. If the idle temps are too high, the load temps will also be too high.
The load temps absolutely won't be lower than the idle temps.

So, IF the idle temps are too high, then you might wanna stress test to see what the load temps are. Eventually, you will want to stress anyways.

/e Here's the kicker...IF the idle temps are too high...there is something you need to alter, BEFORE you start worrying about the load temps and stress tests.

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Idle temps are easy to check. And even though it may not be linear, it's still a good indicator. If the idle temps are too high, the load temps will also be too high.
The load temps absolutely won't be lower than the idle temps.

So, IF the idle temps are too high, then you might wanna stress test to see what the load temps are. Eventually, you will want to stress anyways.

/e Here's the kicker...IF the idle temps are too high...there is something you need to alter, BEFORE you start worrying about the load temps and stress tests.


heres a kicker my 970s would idle in the mid 50s but at full load never break 70

50s idle usually means its bad right?

and fyi my 8700k idled close to 50 on stock bios but never hit 65 either same cooler, oh wait stock bios means shit right?

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heres a kicker my 970s would idle in the mid 50s but at full load never break 70

50s idle usually means its bad right?

and fyi my 8700k idled close to 50 on stock bios but never hit 65 either same cooler, oh wait stock bios means shit right?




Here's the kicker. Z97 brought this up.

Since we never really worked this out before...now's the time.


If person asks you if there temps are too high. You always ask what those temps are.
It would be stupid for someone to run a stress test on an Intel CPU if it's already running at 70C let's say.
This person already has some OTHER isssue to deal with first. Like needs better cooler, better application of TC, less CPU voltage.

That was what I meant years ago when you kiddies misunderstood and went off the beam.

All I had said was, what are the idle temps. Which IS WHERE YOU SHOULD ALWAYS START. We wouldn't want to tell someone to run a 3 hour stress test on a CPU that was idling at 70-75C...would we. No we wouldn't.

And there is no way to know what a person's temps are unless we check them. Always START with idle temps. Then if it's SAFE TO DO SO, we can run a stress test.


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Here's the kicker. Z97 brought this up.

Since we never really worked this out before...now's the time.


If person asks you if there temps are too high. You always ask what those temps are.
It would be stupid for someone to run a stress test on an Intel CPU if it's already running at 70C let's say.
This person already has some OTHER isssue to deal with first. Like needs better cooler, better application of TC, less CPU voltage.

That was what I meant years ago when you kiddies misunderstood and went off the beam.

All I had said was, what are the idle temps. Which IS WHERE YOU SHOULD ALWAYS START. We wouldn't want to tell someone to run a 3 hour stress test on a CPU that was idling at 70-75C...would we. No we wouldn't.

And there is no way to know what a person's temps are unless we check them. Always START with idle temps. Then if it's SAFE TO DO SO, we can run a stress test.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND YET?????????


this statement seen many times along with your damn idle temp pics like they are important

Quote (Ghot @ Apr 23 2018 11:38pm)
It probably seems like rocket science...

...but if your idle temps (easy for anyone to check) are too high, your load temp will also be too high.



Don't feel bad though, you'll figure it out one day. :)


like I said too many variables your statement also means hey your idle temps are fine run your 5.5 1.5v overclock in a stress test too
why because idle temps are fine


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Quote (yupitsmeh @ Apr 24 2018 03:08pm)
this statement seen many times along with your damn idle temp pics like they are important



like I said too many variables your statement also means hey your idle temps are fine run your 5.5 1.5v overclock in a stress test too
why because idle temps are fine


DO YOU UNDERSTAND YET????????




Well then I feel sorry for you. For two things. One, that you don't seem to understand the most basic things about temps, and two, that you can't admit that you agree, now that I spelled it out so clearly that a dog could understand.

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Well then I feel sorry for you. For two things. One, that you don't seem to understand the most basic things about temps, and two, that you can't admit that you agree, now that I spelled it out so clearly that a dog could understand.


RE READ

FYI if his voltage is fixed at 1.4v even on idle are his temps going to high on idle? maybe he has intelspeed step turned off

like I said too many variables

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RE READ

FYI if his voltage is fixed at 1.4v even on idle are his temps going to high on idle? maybe he has intelspeed step turned off

like I said too many variables


Like I said, before we EVER answer anyone's question about if their temps are too high, or suggest running a stress test, we should ask their idle temps. Then if we have room to work, we can move on.
One day, someone is gonna fry someone's CPU by taking things like temps, in too lackadaisical of a manner.

It won't be me. That's for sure.

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